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    Default Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    Need help with trade. Not sure if being an Avs fan is skewing my decision making on considering this.

    I would get

    Rantanen, W. Karlsson and 2019 1st rd rookie (likely 7th-9th ovr)

    For

    Barkov, Puljujarvi, my 2019 1st rd rookie(likely 2nd ovr) and Faulk or Parayko

    I’m thinking I could really use a high end player like Rantanen but I don’t know if the gap between him and barkov is big enough to justify losing a prospect in Puljujarvi and 2nd ovr rookie. (D im not worried)

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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    Welcome to the forums!

    I agree that the gap between Rantanen and Barkov isn't big enough for me to be comfortable losing out on Kakko.

    Actually, the more I look at it, with you getting 8th overall back, and Karlsson over Pulj is a big plus too, it does likely come out as pretty even. If you can get a 4th piece of some significance added coming back to you to counteract what you're losing, I would probably pull the trigger. Barkov can be a bit of a band-aid-boy too.
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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    Your league using F rather than C/LW/RW takes away from Rantanen's value a bit. This is a close one but I think I'd still pull the trigger on it.
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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    Thanks! I also own another 1st round round rookie pick (outside top 5 atm) so I think it mitigates a bit losing mine. Prospect are just a tricky thing and never know if they will pan out and Rantanen looks like a top 5 lock for years to come. I’m really trying to find another trade partner to get back in the top 5 though.

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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    I like it overall. You get the 1st and 3rd best players in the deal.
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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    FWIW - the hockey news just put out the top 50 players under 21 years of age. Kakko is 15th on this list. Mitch Marner is 13th and Brock Boeser is 14th...

    And in looking at the 2019 draft, I love the first 6 picks. The 7th to 10th pick - very likely a D is the best on the board.

    Just keep in mind that falling from 2nd to 7th-9th is an absolutely massive downgrade.

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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    So I did the trade guys. Ended up getting another piece out of it in Andreas Johnsson. Thanks for the help!

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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    I'm a little late for this, but this is info for future reference. Focus on the main piece of a deal. In this case you mostly wanted Rantanen using Barkov as the main piece. There really was no need to acquire William Karlsson (who has only had one productive season) or give up such a high draft pick for that matter.

    So for next time.... Something like this: Barkov + later 1st round pick (maybe later pick) + one of those D-men for Rantanen alone. This way you would get your guy but still get to keep your 2nd overall pick (HUGE value.)
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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    Makes sense. But the only way the other party makes the trade is if that 1st rounder is included so i had to get other pieces that made sense to justify trading Barkov and the 1st

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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    The guy I was trading with was 1st place so had to make sense for him too in order for him to part ways with Rantanen

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    Default Re: Rantanen-Barkov trade help!

    Now go out there and kick some butt the rest of the way and make that traded first round pick be the 3rd overall That's the best way to put the screws into the first place team

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