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    Maybe this is ridiculous as its a few years out but thought it might be interesting to think about what players teams will protect from Seattle (obviously its a long way out and rosters will change, but I am already thinking about it so thought I would post).

    Can protect 7FWD, 3D and 1G or 8 Skaters and 1G. Have to protect those with a NMC in their contract, and all first and second year players are protected (which means anyone in the NHL now will have to be protected.

    Obviously some guys won't still be signed so this is my best guess in terms of who will have not been resigned and who will have retired. I assume RFA's will have been resigned. Here is my thoughts on the Atlantic:

    Buffalo:
    FW: Eichel, Skinner, Reinhart, Mittlestadt, Okposo, Sheary, Sobotka
    D: Risto, Dahlin, Pilut
    G: Ullmark

    Boston
    FW: Bergeron (NMC), Marchand (NMC), Pastrnak, Debrusk, Krejci?, Heinan?
    D: Mcavoy, Krug, Carlo
    G: Rask
    *Chara will have retired one assumes
    * this team may go with 8 skaters...they are so old at forward it was tough for me after debrusk.

    Florida
    FW:Huberdeau (NMC), Barkov, Dadonov, Trocheck, Hoffman, Bjugstad, McCann?
    D:Yandle (NMC), Ekblad, Matheson
    G:no clue....
    *assume Luongo will have retired

    Montreal
    FW: Domi, Drouin, Tatar, Danault, Kotkaniemi, Gallagher, Lehkonen
    D: Juulsen, Weber, Petry
    G: Price (NMC)

    Ottawa:
    FW: Tkachuk, White, Tierney, Boedker, Smith?, Batherson?, Pageau?
    D: Chabot, Ceci, Lajoie
    G:?...anderson is ancient and after that who cares...
    *obviously they protect Duchene or Stone...but I doubt they can resign either let alone both...although Duchene seems to like being in Ontario

    Tampa
    FW: Stamkos (NMC), Kucherov (NMC), Point, Johnson, Gourde, Palat, Joseph
    D: Hedman (NMC), Sergachev, McDonagh? (maybe cernak?)
    G: Vasilevsky

    Toronto:
    FW: Tavares (NMC), Matthews, Nylander, Marner, Kapanen, Johnsson, Kadri (maybe brown)
    D: Reilly, Dermott, Ozhiganov
    G:Andersen
    * I think Nylander will be gone, but going to trust Dubas here, and I think if Nylander is still around, have to assume Gardiner is not.

    I know there are some terrible decisions in here, tell me what you think. Or do the other divisions.
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    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    Metro:
    Carolina:
    FW: Staal (NMC), Aho, Svechnikov, Ferland, Teravainen, McGinn, Rask?
    D: Slavin, Hamilton, Faulk (Man so many good D, someone has to get traded)
    G:Mrazek

    Columbus:
    FW: Dubois, Jenner, Atkinson, Anderson, Bjorkstand, Wennberg, Foligno
    D: Jones, Werenski, Murray
    G: Korpisalo
    * Doesn't sound like Bob or Panarin are going to resign, obviously get protected if they do.

    Detroit:
    FW: Nielsen (NMC), Larkin, Mantha, Nyquist, Bertuzzi, Rasmussen, Athanasiou (Could pick abdelkader I guess)
    D:Cholowski, Dekeyser, Green?
    G: Howard I guess if he's around

    New Jersey:
    FW: Hall, Hischier, Palmieri, Zacha, Johansson, Zajac?, Bratt?
    D: Vatanen, Severson, Butcher
    G: Kinkaid

    NY Islanders
    FW: Barzal, Lee, Nelson, Eberle, Bailey, Beauvillier, Czikas?
    D:Leddy, Pulock, Hickey
    G: Lehner

    NY Rangers:
    FW: Zibinajed (NMC), Vesey, Howden, Kreider, Andersson, Chytil, Buchenevich
    D: Pionk, DeAngelo, Skjei
    G: Lundqvist if he plays forever

    Philadelphia
    FW: Couturier, Patrick, Giroux (NMC), Voracek, Konecny, JVR, Laughton
    D: Provorov, Ghost, Hagg
    G: Whatever goalie they end up signing.

    Pittsburgh
    FW: Crosby (NMC), Malkin (NMC), Kessel (NMC), Guentzal, Hornqvist, Pearson, Simon?
    D: Letaing (NMC), Dumoulin?, Maata?
    G: Murray if he recovers, Jarry if not?

    Washington
    FW: Ovechkin, Vrana, Burakovsky, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Wilson, Oshie
    D: Carlson, Niskanen, Orlov
    G: Holtby
    8tm Keep 7FWD,4D,1G
    3
    C,3LW,3RW,5D,2G (positional game played cap)
    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    I can't even... so far away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    I can't even... so far away.
    Fair, really slow day haha
    8tm Keep 7FWD,4D,1G
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    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    How many teams have 10 players under contract for the 2021 offseason currently?

    Anyways, I can pretty confidently predict Lucic will be protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Anyways, I can pretty confidently predict Lucic will be protected.
    There is no way that a 33 year old with 1 goal in his 30 year old season and a $6,000,000 AAV will be protected in an expansion draft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    There is no way that a 33 year old with 1 goal in his 30 year old season and a $6,000,000 AAV will be protected in an expansion draft.
    He will when he has a NMC and an unmoveable contract

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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    He will when he has a NMC and an unmoveable contract
    By 2021 it becomes a modified NTC.
    Not sure if that means he doesnt have to be protected, probably still does. Anyone know for sure?

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    CapFriendly tweeted out all players that have NMC through 2021 that would cause their teams to have to protect them, Lucic is on the list:

    Ekman Larson, ARI; Bergeron, BOS, Marchand, BOS; Staal, CAR; Toews, CHI, Kane, CHI, Keith,CHI, Seabrook, CHI; Johnson, COL; Seguin, DAL, Benn, DAL, Radulov, DAL, Bishop, DAL; Nielsen, DET; Lucic, EDM; Yandle, FLA, Huberdeau, FLA; Doughty, LAK; Parise, MIN, Suter, MIN; Price, MTL; Zibanejad, NYR; GIroux, PHI; Malkin, PIT, Crosby, PIT, Letang, PIT, Kessel, PIT; Vlasic, SJS; Kucherov, TBL, Stamkos, TBL, Hedman, TBL; Tavares, TOR; Wheeler, WPG
    8tm Keep 7FWD,4D,1G
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    C,3LW,3RW,5D,2G (positional game played cap)
    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    He will when he has a NMC and an unmoveable contract
    The NMC on Lucic's contract becomes a limited No Trade on June 1st, 2021. That is before the expansion draft will take place which should mean that Lucic will not need to be protected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    The NMC on Lucic's contract becomes a limited No Trade on June 1st, 2021. That is before the expansion draft will take place which should mean that Lucic will not need to be protected.
    All I know is capfriendly said he will need to be protected. They could be wrong though
    8tm Keep 7FWD,4D,1G
    3
    C,3LW,3RW,5D,2G (positional game played cap)
    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    Quote Originally Posted by chuckcouples View Post
    The NMC on Lucic's contract becomes a limited No Trade on June 1st, 2021. That is before the expansion draft will take place which should mean that Lucic will not need to be protected.
    I believe CapFriendly, but the only way they'd be wrong is if the rules state "NMC needs to continue into the next season". So NMC on July 1st.

    During the VGK expansion draft, I don't think any player had a NMC move to a NTC on July 1st of 2017, so wasn't really an issue on wording of the NMC mandatory keep.
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    If it expires a week after the expansion draft I think Lucic would probably just waive the clause. Players are able to do that as well. Might be nicer (and dare I say more competitive) playing in Seattle.


    Back on topic, I usually love these kind guessing games, but it is WAY too early. I'll start thinking about it once we're less than a year out.
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    Fun thread.
    I was one of a a few that tried this exercise in summer of 2016, one full year in advance of the Vegas expansion.
    My pre-predictions got ONE player right out of 32 team picks: Brayden McNabb, LA.

    And we're like, what, 2.5 years out from Seattle draft?!
    But - I like to speculate regardless, so thumbs up on thread!

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    The Canadiens will protect Jordie Benn.....for a second time.
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