Hamilton and Klefbom for Ristolainen and Arvidsson

[Paventi]

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I was offered this trade
Hamilton and Klefbom for Arvidsson and Ristolainen

I would be losing a ton of shots. Is Hamilton ever going to break out of this slump? I'm hesitant trading Hamilton away but Risto is having a better season so far. We count blocks so Risto is definitely and upgrade in that Category. I feel like I can find a replacement for Klefbom in our FAs.

As always all opinions are appreciated.

Thank You in advance.

[MZac]

You don't mention so I thought I would just in case you haven't heard, arvidsson is out for 6-8 weeks with a broken thumb.

So if you are aware of that little tid bit, who would you be replacing kelfbom with? Even when he's not scoring he's decent in this set up. Do you have an ir you can throw Arvi on and which forwards are available to replace that spot?

Edit: id be hesitant to trade Hamilton right now, I feel he's at an all time low value wise. He was dropped in my league yesterday and I put a claim in. I think he turns it around and with all the rumors about Carolina potentially moving a d man he could see better opportunity if that happens.

[Paventi]

Hi MZac,

Thanks for adding that tid bit. I knew he was long term. As to answer your question about who can replace Klefbom. I have a couple of ideas. One being short term in Heiskanen and if I think longer I can go with Pulock. Don't need to fill any forward spots right now.

The other manager has Crosby and Matthews already on IR, I have Raanta and Fowler on IR but it seems like Raanta is coming back sooner rather than later. I hope this gives a little bit of a broader picture. It's almost impossible to name all FAs that can be replacements but there are a couple that have similar stats.

Thank You for your input

[MZac]

Hi MZac,

Thanks for adding that tid bit. I knew he was long term. As to answer your question about who can replace Klefbom. I have a couple of ideas. One being short term in Heiskanen and if I think longer I can go with Pulock. Don't need to fill any forward spots right now.

The other manager has Crosby and Matthews already on IR, I have Raanta and Fowler on IR but it seems like Raanta is coming back sooner rather than later. I hope this gives a little bit of a broader picture. It's almost impossible to name all FAs that can be replacements but there are a couple that have similar stats.

Thank You for your input

I think I'd do it in this case. Throw Arvi on ir and get heiskenen until klingberg comes back. You're right in that pulock is also a decent replacement.

For now and probably for the season (although I expect Hamilton to heat up at some point) risto is probably a more consistent option.

I like the deal overall.

Edit: the risk I see for you is that Dahlin eats into ristos time as the season wares on and that Hamilton gets better deployment at some point. I mean chances are that one of those things will probably happen. But neither are a given. So long as you're comfortable with that.

[Wonko]

Since you don't count hits in your league, I don't think Risto is a huge upgrade from Hamilton IMO. I think with Hamilton's extra (monster) shots on goal that they are at best a wash on peripherals. As well, Hamilton is a notoriously slow starter and has for the last 2-3 season had a very strong final half. Not to mention as MZac rightly points out, Dahlin may cut into some of Risto's playing time and opportunity as the season wears on.

In my opinion likely one, if not both, of Klef and Hamilton are due to break out at some point this season.

I am not a super fan of this deal. Arvidsson being our 6 weeks... Meh.

I take a pass.

[Paventi]

Thanks Guys!!! I completely forgot about Dahlin! You guys bring up good points abkut Hamilton being a slow starter. I had him last year too and he did the same thing. i guess i just hope for a Faulk trade so we can see Hammy turn the corner faster!

Thank you guys for your input!!

[skinnypete88]

I'm a little biased being an owner but I don't think Dahlin eats much into Risto's time and as this is a one year league I don't think this trade should be viewed in terms of Dahlin infringing on Risto and Hamilton surplanting Faulk. Everyone assumes Dahlin will eventually be the go to guy given his pedigree but there really hasn't been any indication that's going to happen this season

Right now Risto is on the top PP getting 5 more minutes a night on average, Hamilton has the SOG edge but nothing else and their deployment for the respective teams is night and day. Risto is no slouch either, he's better in shooting than Hamilton is in blocking. Plus Arvidsson is a shooter and comes with the dual wing eligibility

I like the deal

[Wonko]

I'm a little biased being an owner but I don't think Dahlin eats much into Risto's time and as this is a one year league I don't think this trade should be viewed in terms of Dahlin infringing on Risto and Hamilton surplanting Faulk. Everyone assumes Dahlin will eventually be the go to guy given his pedigree but there really hasn't been any indication that's going to happen this season

Right now Risto is on the top PP getting 5 more minutes a night on average, Hamilton has the SOG edge but nothing else and their deployment for the respective teams is night and day. Risto is no slouch either, he's better in shooting than Hamilton is in blocking. Plus Arvidsson is a shooter and comes with the dual wing eligibility

I like the deal

I agree it is close.

Dahlin has taken over the PP #1 duties a few games already this year and that is really what we talk about when we talk about Risto losing opportunity to Dahlin. Risto will aways be the number one minute cruncher in Buffalo, but Risto gets a huge chunk of his points on PP #1. Without that his point totals, that are modest low 40's already, fall into low 30's. Hamilton has averaged about 45 points a year over last 4 years with pretty much the same deployment he is getting now. He also has the higher ceiling. Klefbom runs PP #1 on Edmonton and has no real threat to that role for this season. I stand by my assessment on the deal but agree it is close, and I would understand why a person might be swayed to take it. If hits were a category I think the deal would swing the other way as Risto is putting up 3+ hits a game.

[Paventi]

Hey guys... The other GM came back with Girard instead of Klefbom. So it would be

Hamilton and Girard for Risto and Arvi

What do you guys think?

[j0hn_d0e]

Hey guys... The other GM came back with Girard instead of Klefbom. So it would be

Hamilton and Girard for Risto and Arvi

What do you guys think?

Still Rasmus and Arvi for me.

[Wonko]

I like giving up Girard better than giving up Klefbom in a one year league for sure.

Makes this deal pretty even for me.

Of note, however, Dahlin is eating into Rasmus's top PP minutes again.