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    Default Dahlin vs Chabot

    I scooped Chabot in my league after the game against Toronto. He would now be a $6 keeper option for next year (lowest possible in our league).

    I just received an offer of Dahlin/Teravainen for Chabot/Konecky.

    I know the forward upgrade is obvious here, but wondering how far apart Dahlin and Chabot are for this season and future? Only a few games in, but Dahlin is at a goose egg in points and Chabot is doing quite well.

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    11 Team, Rotisserie G A PTS +/- PIMS PPG PPA SHP GWG W GAA SV% SO

    F: Pastrnak, Mackinnon, Marner, Stamkos, Aho, Teravainen, Boeser, Rakell, Galchenyuk, Zucker, Ferland, Toffoli, Lucic
    D: Rielly, Krug, Subban, Ekblad, Montour, Dahlin
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    Default Re: Dahlin vs Chabot

    Quote Originally Posted by BranDOOM View Post
    I scooped Chabot in my league after the game against Toronto. He would now be a $6 keeper option for next year (lowest possible in our league).

    I just received an offer of Dahlin/Teravainen for Chabot/Konecky.

    I know the forward upgrade is obvious here, but wondering how far apart Dahlin and Chabot are for this season and future? Only a few games in, but Dahlin is at a goose egg in points and Chabot is doing quite well.

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    what are the costs of the other 3 players? almost regardless of that --

    in a keeper this is a MASH accept. The upside difference between Dahlin & Chabot is large. Chabot's a couple years older remember - Dahlin is stepping in at 18 - struggles should be expected. TT > Konecny in your settings as well.

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    Accept..I own both dmen and although I really like Hotsam Batcho I'd make that deal easily..TT over Konecny makes it that much better
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    Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
    G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%

    C- Lee(LW), Horvat, Pettersson, Mittelstadt
    RW- Rantanen, Hertl(LW), Silfverberg, Dzingel(C,LW), Puljujarvi, Zadina
    LW- Domi(C), BTkachuk, Galchenyuk(C), Hoffman(RW)
    D- Werenski, Chabot, Trouba, Dahlin, Barrie
    G- Rask, Rinne, Hutton, Lehner, Markstrom
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    Ya, without knowing all the salary details, it's hard to give an accurate answer but my initial reaction is to accept simply based on talent comparisons. Salary deets could change my opinion pretty quickly too.

    Is this for the league in your sig? What does your full roster look like?


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    Default Re: Dahlin vs Chabot

    Without the full details of the league it's hard to give a great answer but you get the best players in both positions. Dhalin may (or may not) take a few years but no doubt his upside is higher than Chabots. Likely worth the wait for sure.
    Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2

    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

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    Apologies friends, posted on my phone so didn't show my signature. Full team and league details included below. We are in a limited keeper league where only 3F 2D 1G are kept for following year at drafted salary plus $5.

    Chabot was a waiver add for me, so his default salary becomes $1 this year, $6 next year.

    Dahlin was drafted at $16, he will be $21 next year. This is a bit pricey (I kept Doughty at $17 and Krug at $15 for example). If he becomes an elite offensive dman he would be about $30-$35 (Subban was $32 for example).

    Tera was drafted for $7. Konecny for $3.

    I won last year and am looking to repeat. My team is fairly balanced, but needs some work. I often make savvy trades and waiver picks to help with that (only have 4 moves left outside of injury replacements).

    I am concerned that Dahlin seems to be getting no PP time and Risto is locked into PP1. Chabot is heavy PP1 use and Dobber just recently bumped him to 42 points and seems bullish on him. He could be a great dman keeper at $6 if he can pull 40-45 points with solid PP production.

    Thoughts?
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    Keep For Following Year: 3 F, 2 D, 1 G

    11 Team, Rotisserie G A PTS +/- PIMS PPG PPA SHP GWG W GAA SV% SO

    F: Pastrnak, Mackinnon, Marner, Stamkos, Aho, Teravainen, Boeser, Rakell, Galchenyuk, Zucker, Ferland, Toffoli, Lucic
    D: Rielly, Krug, Subban, Ekblad, Montour, Dahlin
    G: Andersen, Raanta, Schneider, DeSmith

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    With this new information, I am more tempted to say to keep what you have. This is why it's so important to give all the details when asking for advice.

    How are you sitting for cap space right now? Honestly, these types of leagues are hard as hell to give advice to because they don't really follow any set salary setup.


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    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, JaBenn, Couture, Wheeler, Lee, Turris, Letang, Kucherov, Byfuglien, Burns, Zuccarello, Hoffman, JSchwartz, KPalmieri, KConnor, Athanasiou, Bjorkstrand, Point, KHayes, Konecny, Vrana, NSchmaltz

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    Default Re: Dahlin vs Chabot

    Every year we have 300 to draft a team. Lots of opportunities to upgrade keepers for next year if you feel you are out of the running, so I'm not really concerned there this early on.

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    Dahlin at 21bucks isnt worth it. At least not yet.. but it's so tempting to say f it and do it anyway.

    Theres no doubt dahlin has the higher upside. Wonder what the chances are dahlin goes back into the pile at yrs end at $21?
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    24 man roster (+1 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
    Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
    G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%

    C- Lee(LW), Horvat, Pettersson, Mittelstadt
    RW- Rantanen, Hertl(LW), Silfverberg, Dzingel(C,LW), Puljujarvi, Zadina
    LW- Domi(C), BTkachuk, Galchenyuk(C), Hoffman(RW)
    D- Werenski, Chabot, Trouba, Dahlin, Barrie
    G- Rask, Rinne, Hutton, Lehner, Markstrom
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    Default Re: Dahlin vs Chabot

    If he only gets 30-35 points... Fairly strong chance. Then he gets redrafted for similar cost

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    With the new info I'm holding what you have. Just seems like better value for a contender and Dhalin will likely be too pricy this year and possibly next to bring big value.
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    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    C. McDavid J. Tavares, S. Aho, B. Schenn, E. Lindholm, M. Zibanajed, J. Guentzel, M. Koivu, T. Tatar

    Defense:
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    Goalie:
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    Default Re: Dahlin vs Chabot

    Suppose the question is, how much better will Chabot be vs Dahlin for this year only, regardless of player costs down the road.

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    Deal was modified and accepted. Teuvo Dahlin Galchenyuk for Konecny Chabot Perron. I like it, especially if Gally is back soon.
    Keeper Team: $300 auction draft, 10 F, 5 D, 3 G, 5 Bench
    Keep For Following Year: 3 F, 2 D, 1 G

    11 Team, Rotisserie G A PTS +/- PIMS PPG PPA SHP GWG W GAA SV% SO

    F: Pastrnak, Mackinnon, Marner, Stamkos, Aho, Teravainen, Boeser, Rakell, Galchenyuk, Zucker, Ferland, Toffoli, Lucic
    D: Rielly, Krug, Subban, Ekblad, Montour, Dahlin
    G: Andersen, Raanta, Schneider, DeSmith

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