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    Hey all. I have the first overall pick this year in the draft and just trying to figure out which way to go. League and cats in Sig below. With three keepers I kept Monahan, Muzzin and Sergachev. All three in favorable positions in the draft. We?ve recently changed our goaltending categories from save percentage and goals against average to saves and goals against. We?ve normally drafted goalies first for the most part but with the first pick, it?s difficult to pass on the big scorers. What would you do in my format?

    McDavid, Ovie, Crosby, Kucherov, Bobrovsky, Holtby?

    Have at it!!

    Thanks in advance!
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



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    Sorry but not even a question. Mcdavid don't worry about other stats take best player available as well as best trade value
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    G/A/PPP/SHP/GWG/SOG/FOW/Hits&blks/W/GAA/SV/SV%
    play 4c/8w/6d/1G (2min start)/6 bench/
    C: Hughes, Zacha, Howden, compher, Tierney, Frederic
    W: Gaudreau, Schwartz, M.Tkachuk, Fabbri, Bratt, Yamamoto, Wahlstrom, Okposo, Heinen, M.Folingo, Hinostroza, Mcginn
    D: Hughes, Ceci, Pelech, oleksiak, Holden, Poolman
    G: Markstrom, Oettinger,
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    Is there a reason why all the names listed are available?
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Roto leagues... give me OV every day of the week
    14 team Fantrax H2H keeper league
    G, A, P, SOG, Hits, Blocks, FOW, - W, Gaa, Sv%, Svs

    C - Crosby, Tavares, Kopitar, Toews
    LW - Hall, Giroux(C), Vrana, Gaudreau
    RW - Pastrnak, Kane, Stamkos(C), Kubalik
    D - Burns, Murphy, Morrisey, Cernak, Whitecloud, Chiarot
    G - Mrazek, Campbell, Brossoit, Greiss
    Bench - Middlestat, Wennberg, Perron, Olofsson, Schwartz, Atkinson, Yama

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    Who is the best D-man available. I would consider him.

    Cost above replacement. You are only starting 130 forwards in your league as opposed to 91 D-men. So I would be considering the cost above a replacement level player of a D-man. The roster setup puts an extra importance on the top end D men.

    Last year - 130th forward is Kevin Hayes/Kyle Palmieri/Bo Horvat range of 44 points (of which two of them only played 63 games)

    Whereas the 91st Defensman is Matt Benning/Andrew MacDonals range of 21 points.

    I am not saying that the best D man available is going to be better than drafting McDavid #1 overall... but I would definitely consider it in every other round of the draft outside of round 1.

    If Karlsson is available I would consider him or McDavid at #1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Is there a reason why all the names listed are available?
    No reason, just options that would fly off the board quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by golfguy1672 View Post
    Roto leagues... give me OV every day of the week
    I was thinking that
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



    Standard Point System
    G, A, +-, PIM's, GAA, Sv%

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    Quote Originally Posted by newper114 View Post
    Sorry but not even a question. Mcdavid don't worry about other stats take best player available as well as best trade value
    McDavid is the obvious but it's Roto with hits, sog's and pim's so this all figures in as well. Also, my league typically coveted goalies above all but now the G stats have changed.
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



    Standard Point System
    G, A, +-, PIM's, GAA, Sv%

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    But you already have keepers. How come none of those big names aren't keepers for someone else??? For salary reasons?
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    Who is the best D-man available. I would consider him.

    Cost above replacement. You are only starting 130 forwards in your league as opposed to 91 D-men. So I would be considering the cost above a replacement level player of a D-man. The roster setup puts an extra importance on the top end D men.

    Last year - 130th forward is Kevin Hayes/Kyle Palmieri/Bo Horvat range of 44 points (of which two of them only played 63 games)

    Whereas the 91st Defensman is Matt Benning/Andrew MacDonals range of 21 points.

    I am not saying that the best D man available is going to be better than drafting McDavid #1 overall... but I would definitely consider it in every other round of the draft outside of round 1.

    If Karlsson is available I would consider him or McDavid at #1.
    Excellent points.

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    I should also mention its a snake style draft so I won't pick again for 26 rounds. That scares me cause a lot of goalies will be gone...
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



    Standard Point System
    G, A, +-, PIM's, GAA, Sv%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    But you already have keepers. How come none of those big names aren't keepers for someone else??? For salary reasons?

    I think it is the position they were draft last year. Similar to football keepers.

    Monahan drafted in round 14 is a keeper.

    But I would still expect the McDavid owner to have kept him in round 1. So not sure!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    But you already have keepers. How come none of those big names aren't keepers for someone else??? For salary reasons?
    Those guys were selected in the first 3 rounds and we can't keep anyone selected in rounds 1-3.
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



    Standard Point System
    G, A, +-, PIM's, GAA, Sv%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right handed shot View Post
    Excellent points.

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    I should also mention its a snake style draft so I won't pick again for 26 rounds. That scares me cause a lot of goalies will be gone...
    True, but with the goalie stats in your league I wouldn't 'pay-up' for a goalie... I would wait long and stream.

    Goalies on bad teams are going to get you a lot of saves. Yes, at the cost of GA and Wins... but If you stack all your skaters and not worry about goalies you should be top end competitive in all the skater categories. Then pick a goalie that will get lots of saves and you are competitive in 1/3 goalie categories.

    And there is always a goalie that doesn't get drafted that ends up being a top end goalie... keep an eye out for that guy and add him during season.

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    So far it seems to be McDavid vs Ovie vs Karlsson. Can't argue with any of that but whats goalies does that leave me with 26 picks later? They still hold great value. Do'nt wanna be stuck with bad goalies cause that could be a major problem.
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



    Standard Point System
    G, A, +-, PIM's, GAA, Sv%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right handed shot View Post
    Those guys were selected in the first 3 rounds and we can't keep anyone selected in rounds 1-3.
    Gotcha, that clears that up. So these guys are looking at now are just for the upcoming season and wont be kept either, correct?

    If that's the case, I'd go with Ovechkin.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Quote Originally Posted by PenguinHunter View Post
    True, but with the goalie stats in your league I wouldn't 'pay-up' for a goalie... I would wait long and stream.

    Goalies on bad teams are going to get you a lot of saves. Yes, at the cost of GA and Wins... but If you stack all your skaters and not worry about goalies you should be top end competitive in all the skater categories. Then pick a goalie that will get lots of saves and you are competitive in 1/3 goalie categories.

    And there is always a goalie that doesn't get drafted that ends up being a top end goalie... keep an eye out for that guy and add him during season.
    This is what I'm hoping for and agree with. I just can't justify passing on a top scorer for a goalie. Especially with the way goalies have been totally unpredictable last few seasons...
    19 Team Roto Cash League
    Salary Cap
    Keep 13-15 (Auction Draft)
    Start - 4C, 4 LW, 3RW, 6 D, 2G
    Amateur Draft
    12 Farm System
    7 Reserve

    C - Chytil, Geekie, Pageau, Rasmussen, Drury
    LW - Macelli, Hoglander, Greig, Knies
    RW - Joseph, Barabanov, Tuch, Tippet, O'Connor
    D - Harley, Vlasic, Moser, Perunovich, Liljegren, Boqvist
    G - Gustavsson, Daccord

    Farm - But, Lucius, Nazar, Snuggerud, Wallstedt, McGroarty, Lekkerimaki, Mateychuk, Savoie, Willander



    Standard Point System
    G, A, +-, PIM's, GAA, Sv%

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