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    I had a trade request for my Rantanen. A team offered me Schmaltz and Talbot for Rantanen. As of now my 2 goalies are Holtby and Smith but I would like another goalie and use Smith as my IR goalie. I know Rantanen is the way better forward but out of all the goalies out there to choose from, Talbot can help me more. The top goalies (starting goalies) which are not drafted in our league are Fleury, M Jones, Raanta, Schnider.

    Goalie points being 2 pts a win and +3 for a shut out, which is the better combo to go with;
    Mike Smith and Rantanen (instead of Smith, I can choose
    Fleury, M Jones, Raanta)
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    Nick Schmaltz and Talbot
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    Marchessault $5m, E Staal $3.5m, C Keller $1.6m, Boeser $1.4m, Rantanen $1.6m, J DeBrusk $1.2m


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    What do you mean by "not drafted" with the list? Are they just available to be picked up? If so just pick one of them up and don't trade Rantanen.
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    KEEP RANTANEN! There are 3 excellent choices to choose from and while Talbot is a good goalie himself, I don't think he's worth giving up Rantanen for.
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    keep Rantanen big time!! and replace Smith by Fleury if you want my opinion...
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    Keep Rantanen
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    Yeah, if it's as simple as picking up one of those available goalies, Fleury is going to return very good numbers this year. Keep Rantanen and pick up Fleury.


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    keep Rantanen

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    Is Talbot even an upgrade over Jones, MAF, or Raanta? Keep Rantanen and upgrade your goalie in other ways.
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    I?d keep Rantanen and pick up Martin Jones.

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    Default Re: Schmaltz vs rantanen

    Quick quick decline on that one. Rantanen is the clear best player in this deal. That offer is not worth your time.

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    The only way this makes sense to me is if the OP means one of those goalies is available to be drafted. If they are free agents, this trade offer is a slam dunk decline. I'd try to acquire Fleury, Raanta and Jones, in that order.

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    Keep Rantanen

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    I'd just grab one of those goalies from the wire. Rantanen's value in a cap league is way higher than what you'd be getting back.
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