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    With cats in sig., who do you prefer? I'm not fussed about how long it takes them to 'arrive'.

    Feel free to list what you think their upsides are too.

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    From everything I've read... Kotkaniemi should be a guaranteed (low/medium-end) top line center.
    I can't speak much to Kravtsov, but I know that most scouts/analysts did NOT have him in their Tier I of players.

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    Kotkaniemi has more of a track record. Kravstov draft stock increase because he had a really good 11 games in the KHL playoffs. I got to go with Kotkaniemi here.

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    Kotkaniemi for me, not really that close either IMO.

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    I'm in kamp Kotkaniemi
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    I’m in the Kravstov camp. He only jumped up because of his playoff run 11 pts in 16 games compared to his 7 pts in 35 regular season games. In his 35 regular season games his average TOI was 11 mins vs his playoff TOI of 16+ mins. If he gets the 16+ min of TOI next year at the same scoring rate he will be close to Tolvanens +1 campaign in the KHL. Here’s the thing though he scored those points vs playoff teams so what’s going to happen when he gets 16+ mins vs the bottom tier squads? I’ll take the Russian Rick Nash.
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    So I crunched some NHLe numbers on Kotk and Krav. I know many aren't sold on Krav because of the small playoff sample size but he has performed at a good clip in the MHL. I agree with Bazz that ice time is and was the key. Just looking at the numbers it's clear Krav is the better scorer and the one I'd want on my fantasy squad. The shorter wait time also has its perks.

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    I am going to say Kotkaniemi but the fact that the NYR passed on Wahlstrom to take Kravtsov certainly gets your attention. There must have been something about him they really liked.


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    Default Re: Kotka v Kravstov

    I’m not sure 99% of us have seen or know enough about either to really give a fully informed opinion on either. Without Fo as a cat... position depth should be given consideration as well
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    Default Re: Kotka v Kravstov

    This is a close one... figured I'd resurrect it.
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