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    How do you guys feel about production for Matthews, Marner and Nylander for the next few years?

    I'd offer my own projections but as a Leafs fan I can't say they would be unbiased lol
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    Matthews - 80-85ish
    Marner -75ish
    Nylander - 60-70

    Scoring is up and if things trend this way, getting to 70 won't be as hard as it used to be. These are averages, with some down years and up years in consideration.

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    I peg their upsides as follows:

    Matthews - 45-45-90
    Marner - 30-60-90
    Nylander - 30-45-75

    I'm most confident AM hits his upside at some point, Marner I think will flirt with PPG most years, Nylander likely in that 65 point range most years.

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    I tbkmk AM and Marner hit 90 in their peak, consistent mid 80s in their prime. Nylander his current trajectory sees him around 70. But all it takes is a summer to find that next gear and I thknk he could push his ceiling to 80/85 if he plays his cards right
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    2018/19 Season

    Player Name TEAM GP G A PTS PIM HITS BLK S S%
    Auston Matthews TOR 80 49 36 85 15 20 65 290 16.9
    Mitchell Marner TOR 78 25 47 72 30 40 35 210 11.9
    William Nylander TOR 82 25 40 65 20 25 20 210 11.9


    After that I think Matthews can hit 90, same with Marner. Nylander should be in and around 70 pts in year 2-3 imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuntMan12 View Post
    2018/19 Season

    Player Name TEAM GP G A PTS PIM HITS BLK S S%
    Auston Matthews TOR 80 49 36 85 15 20 65 290 16.9
    Mitchell Marner TOR 78 25 47 72 30 40 35 210 11.9
    William Nylander TOR 82 25 40 65 20 25 20 210 11.9


    After that I think Matthews can hit 90, same with Marner. Nylander should be in and around 70 pts in year 2-3 imo.
    Dem some big number!

    For the next few years is hard to do but my best guess:

    Matthews: 75-80 most seasons
    Marner: 65-75 most seasons
    Nylander: He's the hardest to project because we arent sure if they plan on using him on the wing or down the middle. I am going to guess he will be damn close to Marners numbers.

    I am not sure I see these kids as 90pt type guys, even Matthews who could be considered by most to be the most talented of the three. NHL scoring does seem to be on the rise again so it's not out of the question but I am just not sure I see these guys as 80+pt getters on a regular basis. Who knows.
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    Agreed on marner and nylander predictions thus far. Mathews definitely has at least a 90 pt ceiling. Watching him play closely for a couple seasons now, I think I wouldn?t be alone to say that I see his upside as close to mcdavids as anyone?s in the league.

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    Matthews 102
    Marner 83
    Nylander 79

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    I think Marner will hit the 80+ next year....man he's so smart and skill with the puck, and probably one of the best pp player in the NHL. Matthews can hit 75-80 too. For Nylander, i dont know...maybe 70?
    In a keeper point only, i really like AM, but i take Marner before him...this guy can finish in top 10 of the NHL some day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    Matthews 102
    Marner 83
    Nylander 79

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    Are these numbers factoring in Tavares signing with the Leafs?

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    Mathews could very well hit 90 pts this year, maybe more.

    Marner-75-80
    Nylander 70-75

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    These projections are insane! Seems the Leafs are going to have three of the top ten scorers with regularity?
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    Yeah even as a Leafs fan who wants to see all these high point totals I have to keep my expectations in check based on current usage trends and the way Babcock dispatches ice time. My guesses assuming Babcock is coaching long term:

    Matthews: 80-85pts average if injuries don't become an issue, maybe 90-95pts on a REAL hot year. Might pass 50 goals on occasion. Will need to be given true 1C ice time though as 18mins might not cut it.

    Marner: 70-80pts average. 90pts might be a huge reach but maybe 85? If Babs ever let's us have a look at a Matthews-Marner line both guys will have a better chance of hitting these higher end projections IMO. They are basically made for each other but our coach likes to spread the scoring too much to let them share a line 5-on-5, especially since both are line drivers.

    Nylander: The real question mark for me because his deployment has the biggest chance of fluctuating. If he sticks with Matthews as a winger long term then 70pts could be a realistic average, but I doubt he ever hits PPG numbers. And does he get PP1 or PP2 time? Remains to be seen. However if he ends up eventually converting to center and having to run his own line (let's assume third line behind Kadri-Marner for at least a couple of years) with depth guys like Johnsson and Kapanen on his wings then production is likely limited to the 60pts he's been putting up to date, or probably closer to 55pts realistically. Nylander is a moving target and I have a real hard time pinning down a prediction for him because he could be playing anywhere in the lineup on any given season. Not to mention even a remote possibility of him being traded for whatever reason down the road.

    And this is all without considering the possibility of Tavares signing. Tavares could change things drastically and I'm not even going to attempt those predictions because I'm operating under the assumption he's not signing with us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Dem some big number!

    For the next few years is hard to do but my best guess:

    Matthews: 75-80 most seasons
    Marner: 65-75 most seasons
    Nylander: He's the hardest to project because we arent sure if they plan on using him on the wing or down the middle. I am going to guess he will be damn close to Marners numbers.

    I am not sure I see these kids as 90pt type guys, even Matthews who could be considered by most to be the most talented of the three. NHL scoring does seem to be on the rise again so it's not out of the question but I am just not sure I see these guys as 80+pt getters on a regular basis. Who knows.
    not very high on Matthews/Marner eh?

    I'll see your pessimism and raise optimism

    Matthews - 85+ most years, teases 100 more than once
    Marner 80+ most years, teases 100 in career year
    Nylander 70+, he's a bit below the other two in compete level. Career year 85+
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    How does this all change if Tavares signs in Toronto?

    The Big Three Becomes the Big 4? Wow, that could be scary.

    Tavares and Marner
    Matthews and NYlander

    Got two solid top lines.

    But with the information remaining as is right now.

    Matthews - I can see cracking 90 points in a fully healthy season and averaging 80 if he is decently healthy for the next few.
    Marner - I would say 65-75 range over three.
    Nylander - 60-68 average with a peak of 76 when Matthews has his 90 point season.

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