Reply With QuoteI'm curious to know how forsberg & Simmonds finished in relation to Rant&Barzy in your scoring format. I'm guessing the latter by a decent margin. That's the side i would want as well.
Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
so got offered Barzal + Rantanen for my Forsberg and Simmonds is this something I should consider?, league is a all stats league.
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14 Team (H2H Points) Dynasty League
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, Zibanejad
LW: E.Kane, Panarin, Huberdeau, Marchand, Landeskog
RW: Rantanen, Zuccarello
D: Makar, Dahlin, Chychrun, Drysdale
G: Shesterkin, Saros, Markstrom
Prospects: Carlsson, Raty, Berggren, Miroshnichenko, Othmann, Clarke, Gulyayev, Nikishin, Wallstadt, Wolf
16 Team (H2H Points) Dynasty League
C: MacKinnon, Zibanejad, Duchene, Schenn, Johansen, Monahan, Krebs, Pageau
LW: E.Kane, Pacioretty, Vrana, Hoffman
RW: Tuch, Stone, Wilson, Batherson, Sprong, Gallagher, Wahlstrom
D: Dahlin, Hamilton, Letang, Dumba, Kylington, Liljegren
G: Allen
Prospects: Byfield, Guenther, Rossi, Perreault, Nikishin
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
I'm curious to know how forsberg & Simmonds finished in relation to Rant&Barzy in your scoring format. I'm guessing the latter by a decent margin. That's the side i would want as well.
5.5X Champs
20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR
C-Hischier,W.Nylander,Benn
LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk,Marchand,Gaudreau
RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
G-Hart,Vanecek
B-Brannstrom,Crouse
Prospects
Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
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Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
Forsberg avg 4.2Originally Posted by Bstbullies
Simmond avg 3.4
Barzal avg 3.3
Rantanen avg 3.8
14 Team (H2H Points) Dynasty League
C: McDavid, MacKinnon, Eichel, Zibanejad
LW: E.Kane, Panarin, Huberdeau, Marchand, Landeskog
RW: Rantanen, Zuccarello
D: Makar, Dahlin, Chychrun, Drysdale
G: Shesterkin, Saros, Markstrom
Prospects: Carlsson, Raty, Berggren, Miroshnichenko, Othmann, Clarke, Gulyayev, Nikishin, Wallstadt, Wolf
16 Team (H2H Points) Dynasty League
C: MacKinnon, Zibanejad, Duchene, Schenn, Johansen, Monahan, Krebs, Pageau
LW: E.Kane, Pacioretty, Vrana, Hoffman
RW: Tuch, Stone, Wilson, Batherson, Sprong, Gallagher, Wahlstrom
D: Dahlin, Hamilton, Letang, Dumba, Kylington, Liljegren
G: Allen
Prospects: Byfield, Guenther, Rossi, Perreault, Nikishin
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
I stand corrected. I think Simmer has a bounce back year getting over injury but he isnt getting any younger. I think Forsberg will continue his dominant ways. Rant and Bar played out of their minds good but I do expect them to take it up a small notch in their primes. It's a tough one for sure but I think I'm on the youth train. Sorry Wayne. You may lose some points next year but the future outweighs it imo.
5.5X Champs
20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR
C-Hischier,W.Nylander,Benn
LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk,Marchand,Gaudreau
RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
G-Hart,Vanecek
B-Brannstrom,Crouse
Prospects
Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
Cap 77.82M/82.5M
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Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
I would choose the Barzal Rantanen side. So much potential and I'm a bit worried about Simmonds moving forward since he is already in his late 20s and plays a very rough style of hockey which may be taking a toll on his body.
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I would choose the Barzal Rantanen side. So much potential and I'm a bit worried about Simmonds moving forward since he is already in his late 20s and plays a very rough style of hockey which may be taking a toll on his body.
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
I'd take the two wingers if you're competing this year or next. Odds of both rantanen and barzel repeating ppg seasons is a bit of a risk imo and if they do they still aren't likely out pointing Forsberg and Simmonds in this format.
I can see Forsberg and especially Simmonds improving next year. Peripherals are obviously huge in this league. Top it off that center (barzel) is easier to fill with a solid replacement. If you're looking beyond 3 years then of course you probably want rantanen and barzel but you probably shouldnt be looking that far ahead.
Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2
Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO
Forwards:
C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund
Defense:
B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin
Goalie:
J. Binnington
IR (2 max):
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
The old adage of points being harder to find than other stats would normally push me to the Barzal/Rantanen side, but those two are especially bad in some categories and Forsberg could equal or better one or even both of the other two in scoring. If you have any faith in Simmonds reverting back to his usual self, I think that side wins.
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Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
In a pts only I'd 100% take Barzal/Rants. Probably still would in ALL STATs but I am not as knowledgeable about all stats leagues
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F: Kucherov, Ovechkin, Matthews, Laine, Kessel, Pettersson, Boeser
D: Burns, Carlson, Dahlin
G:
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C: Eichel
RW: Rantanen
LW: Kucherov, Benn
D: Dahlin (R)
G: Hellebuyck
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
Simmonds out pointed barzel in this league last season (in points per game played). It's very different than points only leagues.
Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2
Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO
Forwards:
C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund
Defense:
B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin
Goalie:
J. Binnington
IR (2 max):
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
ill take the Forsberg/Simmonds side.
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Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
I'd stick with what you have for now. Looks like you're right in the middle of a competitive window, so no need to worry about Simmonds dropping off in a couple seasons. Better to take the higher production now and find a solution when the Wayne Train does start to slow down.
Re: Forsberg/Simmonds or Barzal/Rantanen
This is a really tough one. I?m a big Forsberg fan boy and everyone is expecting a big bounce back from Simmonds next season so I?d take that that pair over Barzal/Rantanen. And as mentioned above, 2 wingers in more valuable than a centre and winger. Centres are pretty easy to come across.
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