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    Do you make this trade?

    Aleksi Heponiemi, Jaret Anderson Dolan, Joseph Woll vs Carter Hart & 2nd round 2018

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slythefly View Post
    Do you make this trade?

    Aleksi Heponiemi, Jaret Anderson Dolan, Joseph Woll vs Carter Hart & 2nd round 2018
    we gonna need way more details here Sly.

    league size / cats / keepers?/ points only? / positional requirements?
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    I just say no. 1. you don't actually know if Hart will be better than Woll (I have #1 starter hopes for Woll) but beside that - both are 4+ years away. Hepo & JAD are 2-3 years away with really strong upside. That's a lot to give up for a perceived bump in Hart over Woll
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    28 teams league point only

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slythefly View Post
    28 teams league point only
    that makes me stand pat even more to be honest. Hepo has some really high boom potential. JAD could become a really solid point producing 2-way C. I really like that kid... I'm starting to wonder if he could become a Horvat type C in a couple years
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    i dunno, i like Hart (not sure which side you are on).

    AHepo had a MONSTER junior year, but i dont know if im all that hyped about him...
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    My players are Hepo, Dolan and Woll.

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    How do goalies score points in your league, and who are your current goalies?

    I get Hart is tempting in a 28 team league, but it's so hard to value the other pieces without seeing the fully dynamics of your roster.

    It's a lot to pay - could be worth it depending on how badly you need a goalie upgrade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    How do goalies score points in your league, and who are your current goalies?

    I get Hart is tempting in a 28 team league, but it's so hard to value the other pieces without seeing the fully dynamics of your roster.

    It's a lot to pay - could be worth it depending on how badly you need a goalie upgrade.
    how does he know he needs a G upgrade - 4yrs from now? Who's to say in 4yrs Hart will still be a better G prospect than Woll (who has been on Team USA-U20 the past two years - behind Parsons - ahead of Oettinger)
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    Yeah goalies are too risky. Hart is the better prospect no doubt but not worth this price.

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    Thx for your opinion.

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    I disagree with the majority here. I'd take the Hart side. He has dominated through whl like no one before. He said being groomed as the goalie of the future of a franchise that had no current starting goalie. Besides for demko, no goalie prospect is in as good a spot as he is.
    28 team league, goalies r really hard to come by. And woll is much farther away, considering Freddie Andersen has the leafs job.
    I don't see too much fantasy potential in JAD. And I'm still not sold on hepo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by forsbergfan View Post
    I disagree with the majority here. I'd take the Hart side. He has dominated through whl like no one before. He said being groomed as the goalie of the future of a franchise that had no current starting goalie. Besides for demko, no goalie prospect is in as good a spot as he is.
    28 team league, goalies r really hard to come by. And woll is much farther away, considering Freddie Andersen has the leafs job.
    I don't see too much fantasy potential in JAD. And I'm still not sold on hepo.
    I tend to go on the Hart side too, was wondering if I was the weirdo in here... hehe
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    Take the Carter Hart side. You are giving up two 2017 second round picks and a goalie prospect for THE goalie prospect and a second-round pick. Even if Hart does not pan out 'instantly', he is still going to hold massive trade value in your league based on name and pedigree alone.

    Goalies are voodoo and Hart may be the next Jack Campbell or Al Montoya or Riku Helenius. Hart could also be the next (you have to play the long game here) Carey Price, Tuukka Rask or Andrey Vasilevskiy.

    I'm swinging for the fences on Hart. He has put up historical numbers in the WHL (and CHL) and his value will only increase for the next few years (no matter where or how he plays).

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    How do goalies score points in your league?
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    how does he know he needs a G upgrade - 4yrs from now? Who's to say in 4yrs Hart will still be a better G prospect than Woll (who has been on Team USA-U20 the past two years - behind Parsons - ahead of Oettinger)
    This is what Dobber has to say about Hart and Woll:

    Woll - Upside: Average starter; NHL certainty: 60%; Arrival: 2021-22 at best; don't draft, long-term project.
    Hart - Upside: Star NHL starter; NHL certainty: 85%; Arrival: 2019-20; Draft advice: Blue-chip.

    While anything can happen 4 years from now, the OP needs to make a decision based on what we know today

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