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    Default Need advice on young Dman.

    Been doing my diligence on Carolinas first round pick Hayden Fleury. Didn't have a great season last year and I don't think he's panned out how the hurricanes has thought thus far.. he's only 21, is he worth giving a shot on? I feel like he's still got more to prove at 21 years old.

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    Carolina most likely reached for him too early. Probably doesn't become more than a #4 defenseman which is still very good but not what you'd want from a #7 pick. I don't see him doing much for you in fantasy hockey leagues. Better real life player.
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    He fits well with the other 'Canes Dmen... good in real life but uninspiring in fantasy realms. I never saw him as 40+pt dman and always steered clear.
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    Not a big fan of Fleury. Is Jake Bean available?
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    I think he will be a very good NHL Dman, not quite as much of a good fantasy Dman.


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    Default Re: Need advice on young Dman.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tfan5211 View Post
    Not a big fan of Fleury. Is Jake Bean available?
    He is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yohyoh View Post
    He is.
    I like Bean a lot more than Fleury but there are plenty of other 'D' prospects I like more than Bean as well. It might be helpful if you listed more names who are available and what are you looking for - immediate help or long-term success?
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    So, I'll give everyone more info on my league.. may be smart to do that on a separate thread.. I am a rebuilding team. So long term success would be preferable. Here is the point structure in my league for D men.



    We will be using the following point system...


    Defence points:

    Games Played = 1 point
    Goals = 15 points
    Assists = 8 points
    Penalty Minutes = 1 point
    Power Play Goals = +5 points
    Short Handed Goals = +10 points
    Overtime Goals = +10 points
    Hat Tricks = +10 points
    Hits = +0.5 points
    Blocked Shots = +0.5 points

    Enforcers/Utility (D/FWD):

    Games Played = 1 point
    Goals = 5 points
    Assists = 8 points
    Penalty Minutes = 2 points
    Power Play Goals = +5 points
    Short Handed Goals = +20 points
    Overtime Goals = +10 points
    Game Winning Goals = + 5 points
    Hat Tricks = +10 points
    Hits = +0.5 points
    Blocked Shots = +0.5 points

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    That is a very weird point structure. If you have the choice between Bean and Fleury, you have to go with Bean. I would imagine this league uses a farm system where you will be stashing one of these guys? If so, it wouldn't hurt to hold onto Fleury and monitor his season. If there is no farm system, you obviously aren't going to waste a roster spot on either of these kids.
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