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    Out of the four listed (nuge drouin horvat reinhart) in a dynasty league where I won?t win next year. Points only, 1 for goal and 1 for assist... how would you rank them. Thank you thank you!

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    next year:

    Horvat
    Reinhart
    RNH
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    This is an interesting list. I think RNH could have a huge year/couple of years if he sticks with McDavid and leon runs the 2nd line. They looked good together at the back end of the year and in the world's.

    I'll go out on a limb and say RNH for the next 3 years followed by horvat, Drouin, and Reinhart.
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    Drouin had a real tough year as the main offensive threat on a poor Montreal team all while playing a new C role. He ended up with a dismal S% and even strength S%. If those manage to bounce back and he gets some help, I can see him hitting the 70-75 range without too much trouble over an 82 game season. There's potential for more there too, but also some risk.

    Nuge had a good year, with a slightly elevated S%. I would peg him at 60-65 over 82 games.

    Horvat similarly had a good year, with slightly elevated S%'s. His PPP totals are a tad low, so I would expect those might offset. I would peg him at 65-70 over 82 games.

    Reinhart had a slow start to the year but finished strong. His S% is on par with historic levels, but his even strength S% was way low. Given room for some additional development entering his 4th year and Buffalo's inevitable improvement (...right?) I would peg him at 65-75 over 82 games depending on his growth.

    So for the purposes of ranking, I would probably go as follows:
    Drouin (highest potential, risk he settles in around 55-65)
    Reinhart (second highest potential, risk he settles in around 50-60)
    Horvat (low risk, 60-70 ish guy)
    Nuge (low risk, 60-70 ish guy, with injuries)

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    Thanks! Nice write up. This is a tough one.

    I could take OEL with the pick too... but my D is fairly strong.

    Hopefully I get a few more opinions. Thx.

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    Drouin had a real tough year as the main offensive threat on a poor Montreal team all while playing a new C role. He ended up with a dismal S% and even strength S%. If those manage to bounce back and he gets some help, I can see him hitting the 70-75 range without too much trouble over an 82 game season. There's potential for more there too, but also some risk.

    Nuge had a good year, with a slightly elevated S%. I would peg him at 60-65 over 82 games.

    Horvat similarly had a good year, with slightly elevated S%'s. His PPP totals are a tad low, so I would expect those might offset. I would peg him at 65-70 over 82 games.

    Reinhart had a slow start to the year but finished strong. His S% is on par with historic levels, but his even strength S% was way low. Given room for some additional development entering his 4th year and Buffalo's inevitable improvement (...right?) I would peg him at 65-75 over 82 games depending on his growth.

    So for the purposes of ranking, I would probably go as follows:
    Drouin (highest potential, risk he settles in around 55-65)
    Reinhart (second highest potential, risk he settles in around 50-60)
    Horvat (low risk, 60-70 ish guy)
    Nuge (low risk, 60-70 ish guy, with injuries)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicGeneral View Post
    Thanks! Nice write up. This is a tough one.

    I could take OEL with the pick too... but my D is fairly strong.

    Hopefully I get a few more opinions. Thx.
    What are the positional requirements? They matter more when taking D into account vs all C you were discussing previously.

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    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins

    Sam Reinhart
    Bo Horvat
    Jon Drouin

    RNH is going to play on the wing with Connor McDavid. He had 15 points in the 13 games he played there last year. He has the highest potential out of this group based on that alone.

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    All I can say is that after covering Drouin in a recent cage match, I put very little stock in him amounting to much of anything fantasywise. Link is in my signature if you want to read the gory details for yourself.

    As for the others, Reinhart and RNH could be situationally great, while Horvat will be hurt by having to be a Toews-like contributor which does not always translate well to fantasy. Personally I'd go with Reinhart because he's younger and perhaps less dependant on Eichel as RNH is on McDavid.
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    What are the positional requirements? They matter more when taking D into account vs all C you were discussing previously.

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    seems weird you would ice an extra 4 forwards beyond an NHL line up... but only 5 Dmen - in a 7 team league.
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    I just want to chime in on Drouin...
    I've mentioned it in a couple threads, but unless he significantly changes his working habits or somehow manages to play with Tavares, I don't see him touching 70-75.
    Rick did a good job on that Cage Match to elaborate with numbers. I would add that Drouin doesn't pass the eye test of an elite player either, having watched him numerous times last season.
    He's got tools and he can be flashy, but he lacks determination and his plays often lead to nowhere at 5 on 5.
    He needs another elite player besides him to be able to create plays in tight and feed him the puck, otherwise he cannot generate offensive on his own.
    That being said, he'll get plenty of opportunities and PP1 ice time with the lack of talent on that roster so 60 is where I would place the bar.
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    Nuge* if he stays on Mcdavid's wing , PPG player and they developed great chemistry once he returned from injury
    Horvat + Boeser was something special too bad injuries hindered the amount of times we seen them together. Plus add a guy like Pettersson could be a dominant line for years to come
    Reinhart - Really found his stride during the 2nd half , poised for a breakout. Even if ROR is traded he still has Eichel or Mittelstadt to play with
    Drouin - Dumpster fire team, solid player not sure if i can rank him ahead of those listed above though

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    1. RNH gets a huge boost if slotted next to McDavid, making him the clear #1 here.
    2. Drouin - I have a weird hunch he is going to have a good bounce-back. In terms of raw gifts, he's the best of the bunch.
    3. Horvat - Probably a wash with Reinhart, but I'm not a Reinhart fan, so I'm choosing the other guy.
    4. Reinhart - Sure, might end up in a cozy spot, but I don't trust him. There's certain players I don't want to hitch my wagon to - Sammy is one of them.

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    1. Nugent-Hopkins - #1 for production & situation.

    2/3 Horvat/Drouin - Drouin drops to 3/4 with Reinhart if he has to play center again, or the Habs don't find a good center to pair him with.

    4. Reinhart - not a lot of trust in him, but he could surpass Drouin.
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