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    Default Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    Threw this offer to an owner

    Zuccarello
    4th overall rookie draft pick

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    Buchnevich or Reinhart
    7th overall rookie draft pick

    I get a younger winger and move down and grab a similar player if they are still there in Boqvist, Bouchard, or Hughes.

    This a good move for me?
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    Default Re: Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    He offered Bjorkstrand back instead
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    C A. Matthews , K. Turris, C. McDavid, R. Rakell
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    Farm/Prospects E. Pettersson, M.Frost, C. Mittelstadt, K. Kaprizov, A. Gaudette, T. Liljegren, E. Tolvanen, C. Makar

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    Default Re: Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    I would rank them:
    Buchnevich
    Bjorkstrand
    Reinhart

    And yes, I'd do the deal.
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    Default Re: Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    I like Bjorkstrand more than Reinhart, so I'd do that as well.
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    Default Re: Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    Bjorkstrand
    6th Overall

    For

    Zuccarello
    4th overall

    Deal is good as long as Dahlin Svechnivkov or Zadina is not available.

    Done deal. Thanks guys
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    LW M. Zucarello, J. Gaudreau, M. Granlund, K. Fiala, I. Kovalchuk
    RW N. Kucherov, B. Wheeler, V. Tarasenko, R. Strome, J. Marchessault
    C A. Matthews , K. Turris, C. McDavid, R. Rakell
    D R. Ristolainen, E. Lindell, T. Dermott, S. Gostisbehere, T. Krug, J. Oesterle
    Farm/Prospects E. Pettersson, M.Frost, C. Mittelstadt, K. Kaprizov, A. Gaudette, T. Liljegren, E. Tolvanen, C. Makar

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    Default Re: Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    im not sold on that, zuc will be close to production with the other 3 young guys for next 3-4 years still and in points only i want top 4 pick...Wahlstrome would be my pick there..after that it drops off quite a bit for points only imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Belexus75 View Post
    im not sold on that, zuc will be close to production with the other 3 young guys for next 3-4 years still and in points only i want top 4 pick...Wahlstrome would be my pick there..after that it drops off quite a bit for points only imo
    This is sort of how I feel as well. Zuccarello for Bjorkstrand is fine, I could see a case for either side. But if someone wants to trade up, they need to give me something in return. I don't see it here.
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    Default Re: Zuccarello/Buchnevich

    May still get Wahlstrom
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    LW M. Zucarello, J. Gaudreau, M. Granlund, K. Fiala, I. Kovalchuk
    RW N. Kucherov, B. Wheeler, V. Tarasenko, R. Strome, J. Marchessault
    C A. Matthews , K. Turris, C. McDavid, R. Rakell
    D R. Ristolainen, E. Lindell, T. Dermott, S. Gostisbehere, T. Krug, J. Oesterle
    Farm/Prospects E. Pettersson, M.Frost, C. Mittelstadt, K. Kaprizov, A. Gaudette, T. Liljegren, E. Tolvanen, C. Makar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfan5211 View Post
    May still get Wahlstrom
    But why take that risk if Wahlstrom is the guy you want? You could have just kept the pick and taken him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    But why take that risk if Wahlstrom is the guy you want? You could have just kept the pick and taken him. Just doesn't make sense to me.
    Not overly worried about getting anyone. Prospect wise I am in relatively good shape. Was more or less looking for a younger upgrade over Zuccarello. Bjorkstrand isn't ideal. I would of rather had Buchnevich.

    I may of been more reluctant to make the deal after seeing your comment. But seeing the first two comments made me pull the trigger a little quick.

    I may move the pick itself and not have a pick at all.

    Sami Niku and Mason Appleton are both available in prospect free agency and look very appealing. I just need to make room for them. Possibly bring up Pettersson but too early to tell with him. Or may move out a Gaudette with the pick. Hobey Baker winner may entice someone a little bit more. Thinking he is more of a very good 3rd line C in Vancouver.
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    8 farm/prospect slots


    LW M. Zucarello, J. Gaudreau, M. Granlund, K. Fiala, I. Kovalchuk
    RW N. Kucherov, B. Wheeler, V. Tarasenko, R. Strome, J. Marchessault
    C A. Matthews , K. Turris, C. McDavid, R. Rakell
    D R. Ristolainen, E. Lindell, T. Dermott, S. Gostisbehere, T. Krug, J. Oesterle
    Farm/Prospects E. Pettersson, M.Frost, C. Mittelstadt, K. Kaprizov, A. Gaudette, T. Liljegren, E. Tolvanen, C. Makar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tfan5211 View Post
    Not overly worried about getting anyone. Prospect wise I am in relatively good shape. Was more or less looking for a younger upgrade over Zuccarello. Bjorkstrand isn't ideal. I would of rather had Buchnevich.

    I may of been more reluctant to make the deal after seeing your comment. But seeing the first two comments made me pull the trigger a little quick.

    I may move the pick itself and not have a pick at all.

    Sami Niku and Mason Appleton are both available in prospect free agency and look very appealing. I just need to make room for them. Possibly bring up Pettersson but too early to tell with him. Or may move out a Gaudette with the pick. Hobey Baker winner may entice someone a little bit more. Thinking he is more of a very good 3rd line C in Vancouver.
    If you can make a 2-for-1 deal and open up a spot for a guy like Niku or Appleton, then nothing wrong with that. But I wouldn't go out of my way trying to create room for them in a shallow league like yours.

    I just think you could have landed a much better price closer to the draft. You had no real reason to trade down at this point when all you got was a swap of players you probably could have received anyways without the picks involved.

    You got younger but I'm not sure I'd call that an 'upgrade' from Zuccarello to Bjorkstrand. It's a fine gamble on youth but Zuccarello could end up being the better player for 2-3 years.
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