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    Default So i just made this deal

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    I moved E.Svechnikov and a 2nd for Jarry ... Thoughts?


    Im stock piling goalie prospects so that when im ready to compete i will hopefully have 2 that will be starters , then i can trade the rest for needs at that time.
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    I think you got the most valuable piece in the deal. It's not a steal but a fine deal for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    I think you got the most valuable piece in the deal. It's not a steal but a fine deal for you.
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    Thats what im feeling as well.. especially since forwards develop the quickest thus my farm forwards and my 4/1st's this draft will be ample to cover Svech's departure ... I just took over this last place team las year so it's been a trying clean up job...lol

    Thanks for the confirmation boys
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    C: E.Kuznetsov. B.Neilson, B.Hayton
    LW: J.Huberdeau, J.Kyrou, D.Heinen
    RW: J.Virtanen, V.Hinostraza, E.Tolvanen
    D: C.Makar, T.Chabot, M.Dumba, M.Matheson,
    SKT:C.Sissons
    G: B.Bishop, A.Raanta
    B: A.Anisimov, C.Fischer, T.Pitlick, A.Martinez, N.Zaitsev
    Farm: V.Kravtsov, J.Gauthier, R.Lavoie, I.Konovalov, M.Berdin

    2021 picks: 2/1'st , 3/2nd's

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    Yeah, a pretty solid trade. Speaking of Jarry, what are everyone's thoughts on him? Eventual starter? Trade bait in PIT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    Speaking of Jarry, what are everyone's thoughts on him? Eventual starter? Trade bait in PIT?
    Im praying he's the next Helleybuck or Vasilevsky and if Seattle gets a team for 2020 then him or Murray will be either traded or selected by Seattle... Sound familiar?
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    G,A,SPT,HT,BLK,SHOTS,FOW... W,SV,SV%,GAA

    C: E.Kuznetsov. B.Neilson, B.Hayton
    LW: J.Huberdeau, J.Kyrou, D.Heinen
    RW: J.Virtanen, V.Hinostraza, E.Tolvanen
    D: C.Makar, T.Chabot, M.Dumba, M.Matheson,
    SKT:C.Sissons
    G: B.Bishop, A.Raanta
    B: A.Anisimov, C.Fischer, T.Pitlick, A.Martinez, N.Zaitsev
    Farm: V.Kravtsov, J.Gauthier, R.Lavoie, I.Konovalov, M.Berdin

    2021 picks: 2/1'st , 3/2nd's

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5hole View Post
    Im praying he's the next Helleybuck or Vasilevsky and if Seattle gets a team for 2020 then him or Murray will be either traded or selected by Seattle... Sound familiar?
    So you're saying make a strong push for Murray now, before he goes to an expansion team and carries them to the conference finals?
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    While I like this particular trade for you, I can't say I'm crazy about your overall strategy (stocking up on prospect goalies - many of which will not pan out and will have no trade value).

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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    While I like this particular trade for you, I can't say I'm crazy about your overall strategy (stocking up on prospect goalies - many of which will not pan out and will have no trade value).
    I agree with this. This deal is okay, because Jarry has been in the NHL and productive.

    Stockpiling prospect goalies is like stockpiling some post-hype collectible now that it's post-hype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by als_revenge View Post
    While I like this particular trade for you, I can't say I'm crazy about your overall strategy (stocking up on prospect goalies - many of which will not pan out and will have no trade value).
    Which goalies do you think are worth dropping?
    24 Team Dynasty, H2H , NHL Salaries & Cap 94M$.
    3C , 3R , 3L, 4D, 1SKT, 2G , 4B , 5Farm
    G,A,SPT,HT,BLK,SHOTS,FOW... W,SV,SV%,GAA

    C: E.Kuznetsov. B.Neilson, B.Hayton
    LW: J.Huberdeau, J.Kyrou, D.Heinen
    RW: J.Virtanen, V.Hinostraza, E.Tolvanen
    D: C.Makar, T.Chabot, M.Dumba, M.Matheson,
    SKT:C.Sissons
    G: B.Bishop, A.Raanta
    B: A.Anisimov, C.Fischer, T.Pitlick, A.Martinez, N.Zaitsev
    Farm: V.Kravtsov, J.Gauthier, R.Lavoie, I.Konovalov, M.Berdin

    2021 picks: 2/1'st , 3/2nd's

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5hole View Post
    Which goalies do you think are worth dropping?
    Campbell, coreau, brossoitt for me and possibly Soderstrom. Gillies needs to put it together soon or he'll be on the chopping block too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5hole View Post
    Which goalies do you think are worth dropping?
    If it's a dynasty (keep all), then there is no sense dropping any goalies. My point is more that I wouldn't just keep targetting prospect goalies in the hopes that you'll end up with 2 starters and others to trade. Most goalie prospects don't work out. On your squad, I wouldn't bet much on Campbell, Coreau or Broissoit ever being starters or very relevant. Soderstrrom is a coin flip at best. When you don't nail it on a F or D prospect, you can still end up with a somewhat productive 3rd liner or something. When you don't nail it on a G....you have nothing - an AHL'er or European league or whatever.

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    I just noticed your main goalies are Kinkaid, Bernier, Kudobin, NIllson & Forsberg on your bench. you need to make a hard STOP!

    You've got a crap-tonne of subpar B level G prospects/back ups that have no starting upside. It's more like a collection of 1989 O-Pee-Chee baseball cards... very little real value, but a lot of volume (roster commitment) You're other farm (non-goalie) prospects are decent. I'm not sure what's going on with your goalie valuations, but Jarry is the closest thing you have to a blue-chip prospect. You need to re-evaluate this plan and re-evaluate how you're evaluating goalies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    I'm not sure what's going on with your goalie valuations, but Jarry is the closest thing you have to a blue-chip prospect. You need to re-evaluate this plan and re-evaluate how you're evaluating goalies.

    Sorry for the harshness but someone's gotta be honest
    No worries , my goalie evaluation has never been my strong suit... ok no more with the goalies unless hes a proven starter
    24 Team Dynasty, H2H , NHL Salaries & Cap 94M$.
    3C , 3R , 3L, 4D, 1SKT, 2G , 4B , 5Farm
    G,A,SPT,HT,BLK,SHOTS,FOW... W,SV,SV%,GAA

    C: E.Kuznetsov. B.Neilson, B.Hayton
    LW: J.Huberdeau, J.Kyrou, D.Heinen
    RW: J.Virtanen, V.Hinostraza, E.Tolvanen
    D: C.Makar, T.Chabot, M.Dumba, M.Matheson,
    SKT:C.Sissons
    G: B.Bishop, A.Raanta
    B: A.Anisimov, C.Fischer, T.Pitlick, A.Martinez, N.Zaitsev
    Farm: V.Kravtsov, J.Gauthier, R.Lavoie, I.Konovalov, M.Berdin

    2021 picks: 2/1'st , 3/2nd's

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5hole View Post
    No worries , my goalie evaluation has never been my strong suit... ok no more with the goalies unless hes a proven starter
    that's not necessarily the fix - mind you - you could really really use ONE! If you replaces Brossoitt, Coreau, Campbell & Soderstrom with Oettinger, Hart, Parsons, Demko, Samsonov, Sorokin, - you would be getting completely different responses on your strategy.

    It's not the strategy itself that's flawed, it's the talent you're accumulating under that strategy.
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