Reply With QuoteBarzal for me.
Re: Barzal vs Point
Barzal all day long. Top 20 in pts only
Re: Barzal vs Point
Barzal for me.
Re: Barzal vs Point
people jump quick to anybody that produces...i would not be surprised if he is around 65-70 points next season ...Originally Posted by hank mooney
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
Re: Barzal vs Point
Anybody that produces! Ha, he produced more than any other rookie in the past DECADE, since Ovechkin's rookie season, so yeah, if you're going to pick A guy to produce, Barzal seems like a pretty good bet.
Re: Barzal vs Point
Ppg rookie seasons are not something that happen often.
We arent comparing him to a proven ppg producer over multiple seasons. We're comparing him to a promising young center with a good (not great) 66 point season under his belt.
Right now barzal is a tier above point (arguably 2 tiers). Until one moves up or down a tier this really isn't close imo.
Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2
Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO
Forwards:
C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund
Defense:
B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin
Goalie:
J. Binnington
IR (2 max):
Re: Barzal vs Point
Barzal just had the best rookie season in a decade (or more) and has the skills to someday contend for a scoring title.
I really like Point as well, but this really isn't even close.
Barzal might have a drop in production next year, as I think many people will in the NHL, but he will still easily outpoint Point, imo.
12 team, H2H, salary cap
1 pt/G or A, 2 pts/W, 1 pt/OTL, 1 pt/SO
Forward: B. Point, M. Necas, A. Debrincat, T. Zegras, J. Bratt, L. Raymond
Defense: J. Morrissey, A. DeAngelo, S. Gostisbehere, D. Doughty
Goalie: T. Demko, E. Merzlikins
Bench: M. Rossi, C. Glass, M. Maccelli, M. Dumba, K. Shattenkirk, F. Andersen
Prospects of Note: L. Stankoven, J. Lekkerimaki, D. Yurov, B. Clarke
League has been running continuously since 1997-98
Re: Barzal vs Point
Point had a really great rookie year... the thing is Barzal had a spectacular year.
I think the way Barzal plays with that in close, transition speed that offers him immediate separation it is going to help insulate him from the sophomore slump. I'll take him for 80+ next year and by season 4 he's knocking on the century mark.
Point's going to be great, but Barzal is just on a different level
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Re: Barzal vs Point
Chalk another one up for Barzal and like most have mentioned, it's not even really close..
16 Team - Keep 5 - H2H Points
Start: 2C/2LW/2RW/4D/2G - 4Bench
G/A(1.25) STP(1.5) GWG(3) SOG(0.25) H(0.2) Blks(0.25) +/-(0.25) PIM(0.1) FOW(0.1)
C: Malkin, Kopitar, Hartman, Johansen
LW: Ovechkin, Pacioretty, Barbashev (C)
RW: Rust, Mangiapane (LW), Rodrigues (LW)
D: DeAngelo, Karlsson, Faulk, Morrisey, Myers
G: A. Forsberg, Price, Reimer, Holtby
Re: Barzal vs Point
All well said. I don't think it's close either. Barzal has the potential to be a true star for fantasy purposes and likely NHL purposes. I think he can work his way into the top 30 as far as Dynasty rankings. He might have a sophomore slump next season, but I would expect him to be around a PPG player (between 70-90 points) for the majority of his career.
18 Team H2H Dynasty 9x4 cat. Roster 30 + 2 NA, 4 DL. 4C,4LW,4RW,6D,1G,11BN
Scoring cats are G, A, +\-, PIM, PPP, SHP, FW, HIT, BLK
W, GAA, SV%, SHO.
C: Crosby, Horvat, , E. Lindholm (RW), Aho, W. Johnston (RW), Bjugstad,
LW: Marchand, J. Benn, E. Kane, Fiala, Barbashev (C), Schwartz (C), Namestikov (C)
RW: M. Tkachuk (LW), JT Miller (C), Batherson, Hyman (LW), Frederic (C), Palmieri
D: J. Carlson, Josi, Doughty, Pietrangelo, Seider, Gudas, Ekman-Larsson,
G: Vasilievkiy, Shesterkin, Husso
NA: Mukhamadullin (D), I. Rosen (RW), D. .Levi (G)
LTIR: Landeskog (LW), Dach (C)
Re: Barzal vs Point
when you put up 85pts in your rookie year... a 100pt season becomes realistic
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Re: Barzal vs Point
I'm late to the thread, but I did do a Cage Match on Barzal not too long ago - worth a read IMO. Link is in my signature. I also covered Point, although that was back in October - still though, likely worth a gander.
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Re: Barzal vs Point
I agree with Axeman (again). I'm glad I own both and don't have to choose but Barzal for me here
17th season keeper league with salary cap,16 teams ,max 38 players per team,UFA/RFA system,contracts.
Cats:fwd(1pt=1pt)top 6 count -Bratt/Hischier/Kakko/Hintz/Meier/W.Johnston/Mercer/Lafrénière/Perfetti/Zibanejad//Mercer/Holtz/Panarin/Kreider/
D(G=2,A=1.5)top 4 count- A.Fox/Heiskanen/K.Miller/Hutson
Goalies(save%,W,SO)top 2 count-Shesterkin/Oettinger
plus 4 other cats: top powerfwd(Trocheck)
setupman(J.Hughes),sniper(J.Robertson)rookie(M.Bou rque/G.Perreault/Stankoven)
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