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    11 person league, points only, positions dont matter. 20 players a team, top 12 count.

    I just won our league after finishing my rebuilt and I should be the team to beat next year. However, im debating offering this trade:

    My Tavares and Rantanen for his Scheifele, Petterson, whats going to be a top 2 pick next year (jack hughes?) and a late pick this year.



    So lets say Tavares for Scheifele and a late pick this year is a wash, is Rantanen for Petterson and top 2 next year dumb? Worries that all those years rebuilding has me enamoured with prospects when I should just sit tight and grind out a win

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    Stick with the team that got you the win. It will take years before Peterson ever becomes what Rantanen currently is. Think how long it took Rantanen to become his current self.

    This is a giant step back after taking a bunch of big rebuilding steps forward. You said it yourself, you’re the team to beat... why Ben your own worst enemy then?

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    I agree, keep what you have. It's not like Johnny T is an old man yet or something, so no need to keep getting younger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolo View Post
    I agree, keep what you have. It's not like Johnny T is an old man yet or something, so no need to keep getting younger.
    This...yiuve done your rebuild. Time to reap.
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    Keep what you got. I know there is always the temptation to snag a top twp pick but you've got two amazing players already so why trade two proven top talents for two maybes? Before I joined this site, I would have proposed that deal without hesitation but there is so much great advice here, now, I wouldn't have thought about it. Congrats on your successful rebuild.
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    Just to add that Scheif is a great player but so are JT and MR.
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    love Schefiele, no way i do that...
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    I would not trade Rantanen for prospects. Keep what you have.
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    Call me crazy (it's happened), but I'm taking this trade. Scheifele to me is easily the best player, that 2 pick is going to be a winner. I guess it comes down to, I am a huge Pettersson fan and I think now in this trade is the time to get him.

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    I wouldn't do it due to the unknowns coming back in addition to Schiefele, assuming you can keep both Tavares & Rantanen. If you couldn't keep both, but could keep the prospect, then that deal would make sense.
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    I think you're a bit stuck in rebuild mode and it happens when you try to get younger and load up on picks for a few years. It can become habitual.

    You need to switch to winning mode. You just won and are primed to win again. That means the pieces you have are valuable and will mostly keep you winning. Stay in win mode and keep what you have in 2 ppg players rather than 1 ppg player, a prospect, and a drat pick.
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    I'm extremely high on Scheifele but this trade doesn't make sense for you. You just finsihed a rebuild so why would you be looking to make a rebuild type of trade? Doesn't make much sense. Tavares' value is about to increase this summer too when we find out his new team because I really don't think he'll be back in NYI next season. I wouldn't do this trade but if you are set on doing it at least wait until after July 1 and you'll likely get a better return.
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    thanks for the sanity check guys. Sometimes doing nothing and sitting on your hands can be the hardest thing, but it seems in this case thats the best option

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