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    loved the other thread, was wondering what you guys think about:

    Brayden Point
    JT Miller
    JVR
    Phillip Danaut
    Riley Nash
    Ryan Strome

    Josh Morrisey
    Matt Grzelcyk
    Luca Sbisa

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    Model answers:
    Jvr 6M x 5
    Danault 4M x 4
    Riley Nash 1M x 1 (Though I think he gets something more like 2.5M x 3)
    Strome 4M x 4 (Though I think he gets a little less than that)

    Others I don't have in it yet.

    Miller and Point I would think get comparables to the Kucherov contract.
    Grzelcyk and Sbisa I wouldn't expect anything too high.
    Morrissey will get a mid-range bridge contract.

    Saros I had in the projection series getting 2.35M x 3yrs. I'll stick with that.
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    I'll take a stab for this one.. these are just quick guesses and the most comfortable ones for me are point and saros

    Brayden Point 6x6
    JT Miller 2x5
    JVR 4x6
    Phillip Danaut 2x3.5
    Riley Nash 2x 2.2
    Ryan Strome 1x 3.5

    Josh Morrisey 3x3.2
    Matt Grzelcyk 2x 2.4
    Luca Sbisa 1x 2.5

    Saros 3x3.5 (vasi contract)

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    Thank god I have Sedin coming off the books and lost Seabrook in expansion (year late, yeah I could've dropped him anyways)
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    Point still has another year on his ELC.
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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    Brayden Point 6x6 -- ok
    JT Miller 2x5 -- ok
    JVR 4x6 -- a bit long and expensive (expected ... worth holding him?)
    Phillip Danaut 2x3.5 -- (a bit expensive)
    Riley Nash 2x 2.2 -- ok
    Ryan Strome 1x 3.5 - unless he wakes up a pretty big ouch

    Josh Morrisey 3x3.2 -- ok for now, he'll get paid in 2 years
    Matt Grzelcyk 2x 2.4 -- ok
    Luca Sbisa 1x 2.5 -- ok

    Saros 3x3.5 (vasi contract) -- seems good

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Point still has another year on his ELC.
    You'e right!!!
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    I'll take a shot at the others for ya

    JT Miller - 4yrs, $4.5M
    JVR - 6yrs, $6.5M
    Danault - 2yrs, $3M
    Riley Nash - 2yrs, $3M
    Ryan Strome - 1yr, $4M

    Josh Morrissey - 8yrs, $5M
    Grzelcyk - 2yrs, $2.5M
    Sbisa - Europe

    Saros - 2yrs, $3M
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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    I think Miller gets $6m. Cap is rising, he is coming of his 2nd RFA contract and he is a 60-point player. Don't see how he signs for $4.5m.
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    Some of the numbers here seem a bit low to me considering how much the cap is going up. I think JVR can get close to $7M. Miller probably around $6M as VincentVega said (although the Tampa tax rate could keep it a bit lower). I think Morrissey could get close to $6M as well if they go long-term, and I suspect they will. Parayko comes to mind as a comparable.

    And also, someone in the Vegas management group seems to be a fan of Sbisa, so I suspect his number could be surprisingly high as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I'll take a shot at the others for ya

    JT Miller - 4yrs, $4.5M
    JVR - 6yrs, $6.5M
    Danault - 2yrs, $3M
    Riley Nash - 2yrs, $3M
    Ryan Strome - 1yr, $4M

    Josh Morrissey - 8yrs, $5M
    Grzelcyk - 2yrs, $2.5M
    Sbisa - Europe

    Saros - 2yrs, $3M
    I was going to post similar to Axe on Morrissey, Wpg would be nuts to give him a bridge vs. an 8yr deal which will truly turn into a value contract mid-way through. 8 x 5-5.5
    if JVR will fetch 6x6.5/7m on the open market. I can see the Leafs stretching him 8yrs 5.5m. He's already publicly said he'd stay and give a friendly cap hit for years. if he agrees under 6. They must sign him
    I can see Miller fetching more term & 5m.

    The rest I fully agree with
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    Quote Originally Posted by VincentVega View Post
    I think Miller gets $6m. Cap is rising, he is coming of his 2nd RFA contract and he is a 60-point player. Don't see how he signs for $4.5m.
    You obviously aren't paying attention to Stevie Y and his ability to get guys signed under fair market value.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Some of the numbers here seem a bit low to me considering how much the cap is going up. I think JVR can get close to $7M. Miller probably around $6M as VincentVega said (although the Tampa tax rate could keep it a bit lower). I think Morrissey could get close to $6M as well if they go long-term, and I suspect they will. Parayko comes to mind as a comparable.

    And also, someone in the Vegas management group seems to be a fan of Sbisa, so I suspect his number could be surprisingly high as well.
    Hasn't he been a healthy scratch most of the playoffs?
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    Hasn't he been a healthy scratch most of the playoffs?
    Coaches make those decisions, not management.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Coaches make those decisions, not management.
    Indeed, and if the team is winning without Sbisa, which is the case in Vegas, management sure isn't going to spend big money on him, if at all.
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    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    anyone that gives Sbisa anything close to Gudbranson contract should be privately beaten (public floggings are a thing of the past). He's an awful defenseman. Europe would suit him well
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