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    Default Dahlin/Provorov/Werenski/Chabot

    How would you rank them?
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    Except Dahlin I'd say:
    1-Werenski
    2-Provorov
    3-Chabot

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    Im assuming Dhalin will produce most of theese guys based on hype and what we know and seen at different level but he has not played at highest level so for now just assumption.

    other 3 i woudl say

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    I really liked what I saw from Provorov last year. Tied for league lead in goals by a D with little PP1 time, if I'm not mistaken. That's nasty. I'm seeing some Roman Josi type stuff in Provy's future, even more if he gets some PP play.

    Werenski is a stud. I think he has future 50 points written all over him.

    Chabot is a very good young D but I want to see what happens with Karlsson before I even try to evaluate him.

    Dahlin certainly has the highest upside out of the group, based on pedigree alone. But it will probably be 3 years before he places himself in a tier about Provorov and Werenski.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    I really liked what I saw from Provorov last year. Tied for league lead in goals by a D with little PP1 time, if I'm not mistaken. That's nasty. I'm seeing some Roman Josi type stuff in Provy's future, even more if he gets some PP play.

    Werenski is a stud. I think he has future 50 points written all over him.

    Chabot is a very good young D but I want to see what happens with Karlsson before I even try to evaluate him.

    Dahlin certainly has the highest upside out of the group, based on pedigree alone. But it will probably be 3 years before he places himself in a tier about Provorov and Werenski.
    I'm currently trying to see what I can get for my first overall pick (probably Dahlin). Looking for a great d-men (like one of these guys) since I need to improve at this position and a 1st round pick which would be between 2nd and 10th overall to get a forward as well.
    W.Karlsson is available so I'd like to grab him but he'll probably be gone after the 2nd pick. A.Svech/Debrusk/Zadina/Tolvanen/Bailey/Lee/Gourde/Necas/Demko/Hughes/etc. All available.
    I think I'll try for Provorov and 5th overall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterX57 View Post
    I'm currently trying to see what I can get for my first overall pick (probably Dahlin). Looking for a great d-men (like one of these guys) since I need to improve at this position and a 1st round pick which would be between 2nd and 10th overall to get a forward as well.
    W.Karlsson is available so I'd like to grab him but he'll probably be gone after the 2nd pick. A.Svech/Debrusk/Zadina/Tolvanen/Bailey/Lee/Gourde/Necas/Demko/Hughes/etc. All available.
    I think I'll try for Provorov and 5th overall.
    If you can get a Provorov, Werenski, McAvoy, Sergachev type and the 5th overall, I would seriously consider that. 5th is either Wahlstrom or Tkachuk - both have 30-35 goal upside. If you can add one of them plus a future 50 point D for Dahlin, it might be worth the risk, especially if you're looking to toss your chips in the pot now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungchen3 View Post
    I really liked what I saw from Provorov last year. Tied for league lead in goals by a D with little PP1 time, if I'm not mistaken. That's nasty. I'm seeing some Roman Josi type stuff in Provy's future, even more if he gets some PP play.
    The first part is true, and he was working with Gostisbehere on PP1 at times late in the year and the playoffs. If this was a blocks/hits league, you'd want Provorov, and I'm not sure how close it would be.

    Dahlin is supposed to be the high ceiling guy, but his floor is below Werenski & Provorov. I don't see either of those guys not being NHL caliber moving forward, barring injury.

    Chabot is in a weird situation, and Karlsson is a major factor regarding opportunity. We also don't know where Dahlin is, and Ottawa as a landing spot would be very very confusing for your projections.

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    Ok thank y'all for answering! Nice to see I wasn't wrong for thinking about doing it.
    I'd like to know what you'd be thinking about trying for McAvoy and Yamamoto. I don't think the guy will accept but I'll try.

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    What are you roster positions? Plays a huge part in your decision if you don't distinguish between D and F

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hunter9 View Post
    What are you roster positions? Plays a huge part in your decision if you don't distinguish between D and F
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    maybe its because im a fan but i think Chabot is being under-rated here.

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    So Dahlin and Provorov are actually close if I'm getting this right.
    How about McAvoy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterX57 View Post
    So Dahlin and Provorov are actually close if I'm getting this right.
    How about McAvoy?
    My ballpark predictions.

    Next year:

    1. McAvoy (48)
    2. Provorov (46)
    3. Dahlin (42)
    3. Werenski (40) *Misses a a few games recovering from shoulder surgery

    2019-20:

    1. Werenski (54)
    2. McAvoy (52)
    3. Provorov (49)
    4. Dahlin (46)

    2020-21:

    1. Dahlin (57)
    2. Werenski (54)
    3. McAvoy (52)
    4. Provorov (50)

    Career years:

    1. Dahlin (75)
    2. Werenski (65)
    3. Provorov (63)
    4. McAvoy (60)

    I think McAvoy and Provorov end up rock solid 50 pointers, in the mold of Doughty, with career years around 58-63 points.

    Werenski has a bit more offensive upside. If Jones misses a bunch of time due to injury, Werenski will soar offensively. If he was in a Klingberg or Barrie situation, he'd max out at 70. His offensive instincts are borderline-elite.

    Dahlin has the most upside and is the likely bet to continually be in the 60s when he gets cranking. Just don't expect Karlsson numbers - they are different animals.

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    I agree with you guys. Thank!
    Think I'll keep Dahlin after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterX57 View Post
    How would you rank them?
    Points only
    1pt/goal
    1pt/assist
    No salary cap
    Except Dahlin I'd say:
    1-Werenski
    2-Provorov
    3-Chabot
    To me they all have huge upside but that ranking is right for the immediate future. However Werenskis injury is something to keep an eye on

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