Can I get some suggestions on My 4 keepers going into next season please

[dirtybirdy]

Going into an expansion draft next season, and we get to protect 4 players before the new GMS get to draft off our teams. What 4 players should I protect.

[Axeman33]

Wow, only four.

My four would be Panarin, Hall, Pastrnak and Hellebuyck.

That sucks. You have some really good, young players.

[RizzeeDizzee]

Hall, Panarin, and Hellebuyck are locks. The fourth is really tough. I could see a case being made for Pasta, Barzal, and even Malkin or, given the categories, Subban.

[Pengwin7]

The one lock here is PK Subban.
It's multi-cat and we can't forget that you need to do well in things l ike +/-, HIT, BLK, PIM.
Your BLK pretty much have to come from your D and it is nearly impossible to find the complete PPP/HIT/BLK/PIM D-man.
In RHRS, which includes all these (as well as SOG & FOW) PK Subban is the Yahoo#23 overall player, the #2 overall D-man (behind Hedman at Yahoo#17)
(Hall is 8, Panarin... who doesn't HIT or PIM... is #46).

It's also a start 1G.
We've seen what happens with goalies from year-to-year.
Matt Murray was considered a lock-keeper in leagues last year, as was Carey Price, Braden Holtby, and Cam Talbot.

Malkin is lock #2.
He's Yahoo#1 in multi-cat... and he gets stirred up every year enough to provide PIM and a few hit. (Now, RHRS includes SOG & FOW, so maybe Malkin is a tad further down, but still top 3-5)

I'm NOT a fan of rostering non-hitting wingers, but you have so many of them they DO represent your better choices for your 3rd/4th spots.
If they aren't scoring, you aren't getting your value from them.
Look at Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarasenko this year. They are Yahoo#85 and #48 this year.
Hall and Panarin are basically last year's Kane & Tarasenko.

Pastrnak is my #3 because I have great faith in his PP1 and +/- going forward with that BOS #1 line.

Taylor Hall is my #4, as I really like his future with Nico Hischier at C1. Hall also hits a bit and I think he'll give more PIM too, then Panarin.


I'm simply not keeping a G in a 12-team 1G-start league... especially when they basically only contribute two cats: W & GAA.
In 12-team, G1 leagues, there will be enough on the waiver wire to cycle through middling goalies (Raanta, Elliott, M.Smith, etc.) when they play against bad teams.

[PenguinHunter]

For me

Malkin - Can you really drop a player that is flirting with 100 points this year?
Subban - A top scoring D man on a team that will be just as good next year?
Hall - A Hart trophy candidate?? You got to keep him.

The final one comes down to Pastrnak, Hellebuyck and Ghost and its basically a positional determination.

You only start 1 goalie... so I think Hellebuyck is less valuable.

Does your league draft D early... if so I would keep Ghost... if not then it is Pastrnak for me!

[MasterByte]

The one lock here is PK Subban.
It's multi-cat and we can't forget that you need to do well in things l ike +/-, HIT, BLK, PIM.
Your BLK pretty much have to come from your D and it is nearly impossible to find the complete PPP/HIT/BLK/PIM D-man.
In RHRS, which includes all these (as well as SOG & FOW) PK Subban is the Yahoo#23 overall player, the #2 overall D-man (behind Hedman at Yahoo#17)
(Hall is 8, Panarin... who doesn't HIT or PIM... is #46).

It's also a start 1G.
We've seen what happens with goalies from year-to-year.
Matt Murray was considered a lock-keeper in leagues last year, as was Carey Price, Braden Holtby, and Cam Talbot.

Malkin is lock #2.
He's Yahoo#1 in multi-cat... and he gets stirred up every year enough to provide PIM and a few hit. (Now, RHRS includes SOG & FOW, so maybe Malkin is a tad further down, but still top 3-5)

I'm NOT a fan of rostering non-hitting wingers, but you have so many of them they DO represent your better choices for your 3rd/4th spots.
If they aren't scoring, you aren't getting your value from them.
Look at Patrick Kane and Vladimir Tarasenko this year. They are Yahoo#85 and #48 this year.
Hall and Panarin are basically last year's Kane & Tarasenko.

Pastrnak is my #3 because I have great faith in his PP1 and +/- going forward with that BOS #1 line.

Taylor Hall is my #4, as I really like his future with Nico Hischier at C1. Hall also hits a bit and I think he'll give more PIM too, then Panarin.


I'm simply not keeping a G in a 12-team 1G-start league... especially when they basically only contribute two cats: W & GAA.
In 12-team, G1 leagues, there will be enough on the waiver wire to cycle through middling goalies (Raanta, Elliott, M.Smith, etc.) when they play against bad teams.

Couldn't have said it better!
Goalies are voodoo. In a keep 4, start 1G league, forget the goalie.
Malkin, Hall, Pasta, Subban

[Canucks_fan18]

I agree with Pengwin as well. Not as high on Subban too many cooks in the kitchen but noway am I keeping a goalie in a keep 4, their to volatile. So I am going Hall, Malkin, Pasta and Subban in that order.

[Triplea14]

Malkin hall pasta anddddddddd I wanna say barzal but in a multi cat ughhhhh Subban

[Eskimo Brother]

I agree with Pengwin's first 3 being Malkin, Subban and Pasta.
I want to go with Barzal as number 4, but there are good arguments to be made for any of Hall, Ghost or Panarin.
Hellebuyck I love as well, but I agree too much with not keeping a goalie in this setup.

[Canucks_fan18]

I agree with Pengwin's first 3 being Malkin, Subban and Pasta.
I want to go with Barzal as number 4, but there are good arguments to be made for any of Hall, Ghost or Panarin.
Hellebuyck I love as well, but I agree too much with not keeping a goalie in this setup.

I know some of Halls regression numbers are there but how far do you think he backs up? I would of thought he would of been a for sure keeper here.

[Eskimo Brother]

I know some of Halls regression numbers are there but how far do you think he backs up? I would of thought he would of been a for sure keeper here.

I don't think he regresses too much. He can consistently be a PPG player (75 in 75 games or so), but I don't think I'm expecting 90 every year.

[Triplea14]

He is a def a keeper. Anyone who doesn't keep him is trying to be smarter than they are haha

[DusterDave]

I'm not protecting a goalie when you have that kind of talent on your roster. We've seen how quickly goalies can gain/lose value every season. I'd be keeping Hall, Pastrnak, Malkin & Subban.

[fungchen3]

1. Malkin
2. Subban
3. Pastrnak
4. Hall / Panarin

[MZac]

Malkib
Subban
Hall
Pasta

That's my list but could probably be talked into replacing pasta with Gost or panarin. Don't keep a goalie with only 4 keepers where you only start 1.