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    Default Kopitar for Crosby straight up

    Just joined a H2H points lg, only 5 teams.

    I have Kopitar, other guy has Crosby.....this is a one for one trade offer, nothing else on the table.

    Scoring is below, although each goal is 7 points.

    7 points-Goal
    3 points-Power Play Goal
    3 points-2 Power Play Assists (1.5 per)
    3 points-2 Short Handed Points (1.5 per)
    5 points-Assist
    1 point-Shot On Goal
    2 points-Plus Minus
    1 point-2 Hits (0.5 per)

    Both are 30 years old, both have big-time play-off/Cup experience. Cosby seems to score more goals over his career.

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    H2H Points in a Fleaflicker Lg: Ten teams - Four make playoffs -- Roster: 28 Total-18 Starters, 10 Bench, +5 IR (Allowed 25 Keepers)
    Offense: HatTricks/Goals/PowerPlay/ShortHanded/Assist/PIM/FaceOffs/SOG/Plus-Minus
    Defense: Hits/Blocks
    Goalies: Win/Loss/OT Loss/ShutOut/Save/GA

    Center: Karlsson / Monahan / Scheifele / Trocheck / Luc-Dubois

    L/W: Brady Thachuk / Zucker / Jenner / JT Miller / Hyman

    R/W: Elias Lindholm / Dominik Kubalik / Stamkos / Teravainen

    W/F: DeBrincat / Tatar

    D: Ekholm / Seth Jones / Heiskanen / Hamilton / Sergachev

    G: MAF / Binnington / Koskinen

    IR: Scheifele

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    I would take Crosby and run.

    Kopitar has been a nice surprise this year and Crosby is down by his standards and they are still very close this year.

    Crosby easily.
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    2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
    G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
    C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
    LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
    RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
    D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
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    Default Re: Kopitar for Crosby straight up

    Crosby and it's not super close for me.

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    Might be moot point, I approved but its getting all vetoes....
    H2H Points in a Fleaflicker Lg: Ten teams - Four make playoffs -- Roster: 28 Total-18 Starters, 10 Bench, +5 IR (Allowed 25 Keepers)
    Offense: HatTricks/Goals/PowerPlay/ShortHanded/Assist/PIM/FaceOffs/SOG/Plus-Minus
    Defense: Hits/Blocks
    Goalies: Win/Loss/OT Loss/ShutOut/Save/GA

    Center: Karlsson / Monahan / Scheifele / Trocheck / Luc-Dubois

    L/W: Brady Thachuk / Zucker / Jenner / JT Miller / Hyman

    R/W: Elias Lindholm / Dominik Kubalik / Stamkos / Teravainen

    W/F: DeBrincat / Tatar

    D: Ekholm / Seth Jones / Heiskanen / Hamilton / Sergachev

    G: MAF / Binnington / Koskinen

    IR: Scheifele

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    I would imagine it would get vetos it's not even close.
    12 Team Keep 5 (2 F, 1 D, 1 G, 1 Any) G,A,PTS,PPP,SOG,HITS,PIMS,W,GAA and Sv%.

    F: Kucherov, K.Connor, J. Hughes,,J.Guentzel, A.Svechnikov, C.Giroux, T.Terry
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    Yeah. Not particularly close. Could you even fathom this deal at the start of this season? Kopitar went 131st in one of my drafts...
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    D-Men 6-G 4-A 1.5 STP
    .35 Shot .4 Hit .4 Block .1 FOW
    Goalie 6.5 Win .25 Save -2.5 GA 2-SO


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    LW- Stamkos, Hyman, Kreider, Lehkonen,
    RW- Laine, Marchessault, Toffoli. Buchnevich
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    Kopitar is on pace for 88 points, had 1 down year let's not forget that. Not saying there shouldn't be a plus to get Crosby, but Kopitar is a stud in his own right.
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    Skt points: A (2), GWG (1), G (3), ShG (1), Hat Trick (1), Overtime Goal (1), +/- (0.5), PPA (0.5), PPG (1), SHA (1), SHG (2)
    Goalie points: A (2), G (10), SHO (4), W (5), OL + ShL (2)
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    Starters: C - Horvat, Point, LW - Dubois, Kaprisov, RW - Kane, Svechnikov, D - Montour, Doughty, Skt - Hyman
    Bench: Trocheck, Rakell, Wedgewood, Francouz
    Rookie: Kochetkov
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    Default Re: Kopitar for Crosby straight up

    hellzya.

    Like Leafsfan said, Kopi is a stud. But I'd rather have Cros.
    12 team, keep 7.
    Goals 3pts, Assists 2pts. SOG, Hits, Blocks, 0.5pts. GWG/PPG 1pt, FW 0.2pts, FL -0.1pts. Forward/Defense
    Goalie Start 1pt, wins 4pts, Losses -1pts, Goals against -1pts, Saves 0.2pts, Shutouts 2pts. Goalie

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    Left Wing: Ovechkin, Skinner
    Right Wing: Wheeler, Laine
    Defense: Byfuglien, Myers, Heiskanen
    Bench: Skinner, Pettersson, Svechnikov,
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    Crosby and its not close.

    As good of a bounce back as Kopitar has had he is not in the same tier. Crosby is still going in the first round in any format I can imagine and likely a top 5 pick where Kopitar could easily fall to round 3 or 4 in most formats. We are talking minimum 1 tier below and more probably 2 tiers.
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    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund

    Defense:
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    Goalie:
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    Crosby. That is all.

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    If he sent this offer to you willingly, and there's nothing shady going on, I have no idea why it should be vetoed.

    Note: I know why it could get vetoed, but that's not the same thing. Especially in a 5 team league.
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    I hope you accepted ?
    1) 16 teams full keeper H2H. Start 9F, 4D, 1G, 2 Championships
    pts: (D : 7 pts G /5 pts A), (F : 5pts G /3 pts A), (G : 10 pts W / 5 pts SO), (D/F : 1 pt +/-, 0.5 pts PIM, 0.1 FOW, 0.2 Hits, 0.3 pts SOG, PP and SH).

    Forward : Aho, Svechnikov, PLDubois, Giroux, Couture, Wheeler, Cozens, Karlsson, Vrana, Anderson,​Greenway,

    Defenses : Dahlin, Fox, Doughty, Toews, , Slavin, Miller

    Goalies : Oettinger, Vanecek, Bobrovsky

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    Is this done?? Tell me it's done...
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

    Keepers

    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

    Drops

    F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary

    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

    FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf

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    Ok, I did accept (on Friday) and a few veto's popped in, but this AM the commish approved...so I got Crosby for Kopitar straight up, no other players or picks. He sits on my line with Malkin.
    H2H Points in a Fleaflicker Lg: Ten teams - Four make playoffs -- Roster: 28 Total-18 Starters, 10 Bench, +5 IR (Allowed 25 Keepers)
    Offense: HatTricks/Goals/PowerPlay/ShortHanded/Assist/PIM/FaceOffs/SOG/Plus-Minus
    Defense: Hits/Blocks
    Goalies: Win/Loss/OT Loss/ShutOut/Save/GA

    Center: Karlsson / Monahan / Scheifele / Trocheck / Luc-Dubois

    L/W: Brady Thachuk / Zucker / Jenner / JT Miller / Hyman

    R/W: Elias Lindholm / Dominik Kubalik / Stamkos / Teravainen

    W/F: DeBrincat / Tatar

    D: Ekholm / Seth Jones / Heiskanen / Hamilton / Sergachev

    G: MAF / Binnington / Koskinen

    IR: Scheifele

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    Well done!
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

    Keepers

    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

    Drops

    F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary

    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

    FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf

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