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    Ok so keeper league where I can only keep 1 goalie, who do you keep: Hellebuyck or Andersen?

    And I was fighting until the end for the first place, but now I'm starting to trail a little too far behind so I want to try and trade one of them instead of losing him for nothing this summer. So again who would you keep and what would be a realistic return in a trade for the other? Goalies, especially good ones like those 2 have been this year, are worth alot (multicat league).

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    Multi categories 6-teams keeper league

    Keep 9, Points based
    Active: 3C-3LW-3RW-6D-2G (Daily rosters)
    Bench: 4
    Scoring for skaters: G (3), A (2), PP (0.5), +/- (0.2) Hits (0.2), Blocks (0.2), Extra 0.5 for D-men G and A
    Scoring for goalies: W (3), L (-1), OL + ShL (+1), GA (-1) Saves (0.2), Shutouts (1), SV%


    ROSTER:
    C: Crosby - McDavid - Trocheck
    LW: Kaprizov - J.T. Miller (C,RW) - Marchand
    RW: Rantanen (C) - Kucherov - Necas (C)
    D: Hedman - Dahlin - Hamilton- Heiskanen - R. Andersson - Karlsson
    G: Hellebuyck - Markstrom
    Bench: Fleury (G) - Pionk - Benn (C,LW) - Bratt (LW,RW)
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    Default Re: Trade Hellebuyck or Andersen

    Hellebuyck has better numbers than Freddie. He's the guy I would want to go into next season with. The question is, how much value does Andersen have in your league and I would think that it is likely significant. Find a Leaf fan, and cut yourself a great deal!
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

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    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

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    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

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    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

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    Default Re: Trade Hellebuyck or Andersen

    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba55 View Post
    Hellebuyck has better numbers than Freddie. He's the guy I would want to go into next season with. The question is, how much value does Andersen have in your league and I would think that it is likely significant. Find a Leaf fan, and cut yourself a great deal!
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    Field offers on both goalies and trade the one with the bigger return.
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    Keepers:
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    As a keeper I like Hellebuyck, I'd keep him if you can get a good haul on Andersen
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    RW: C Perry, K Okposo, A Ovechkin, Kucherov
    D: D Byfuglien, Z Chara, E Karlsson, R Josi, D Keith, Trouba
    G: R Luongo, B Holtby, K Lehtonen
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    Goalies can be very fickle. There are only a couple of actually reliable top end goalies. Neither of these guys are in that category. Personally I bought into Hellebuyuk 2 years ago. And I still do. But I wouldn't be surprised if either put up a better year. Hellebuyuk is the better keeper. But not by much.

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    Thanks guys really appreciate your input. In this league, we keep 10 skaters +1 goalie. Here are my keepers for now:

    Barkov, Trocheck, Benn, Forsberg, Laine, Erik Karlsson, Subban, Dumba, Marner, Stamkos
    Hellebuyck (or Andersen)

    where do you think I could aim to improve by trading Andersen (or Hellebuyck)?

    It is a multi-cat league, relatively heavy on peripherals. It counts G, A, FOW and FOL, SOG, Hits, Blocks, PPP, SHP, PIM, GWG and +/- and Trocheck is a beast, one o the most valuable players.
    Multi categories 6-teams keeper league

    Keep 9, Points based
    Active: 3C-3LW-3RW-6D-2G (Daily rosters)
    Bench: 4
    Scoring for skaters: G (3), A (2), PP (0.5), +/- (0.2) Hits (0.2), Blocks (0.2), Extra 0.5 for D-men G and A
    Scoring for goalies: W (3), L (-1), OL + ShL (+1), GA (-1) Saves (0.2), Shutouts (1), SV%


    ROSTER:
    C: Crosby - McDavid - Trocheck
    LW: Kaprizov - J.T. Miller (C,RW) - Marchand
    RW: Rantanen (C) - Kucherov - Necas (C)
    D: Hedman - Dahlin - Hamilton- Heiskanen - R. Andersson - Karlsson
    G: Hellebuyck - Markstrom
    Bench: Fleury (G) - Pionk - Benn (C,LW) - Bratt (LW,RW)
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    I also have Clayton Keller and Morgan Rielly that I could keep if I ever packaged 2 of my top 10 keepers for 1 better player
    Multi categories 6-teams keeper league

    Keep 9, Points based
    Active: 3C-3LW-3RW-6D-2G (Daily rosters)
    Bench: 4
    Scoring for skaters: G (3), A (2), PP (0.5), +/- (0.2) Hits (0.2), Blocks (0.2), Extra 0.5 for D-men G and A
    Scoring for goalies: W (3), L (-1), OL + ShL (+1), GA (-1) Saves (0.2), Shutouts (1), SV%


    ROSTER:
    C: Crosby - McDavid - Trocheck
    LW: Kaprizov - J.T. Miller (C,RW) - Marchand
    RW: Rantanen (C) - Kucherov - Necas (C)
    D: Hedman - Dahlin - Hamilton- Heiskanen - R. Andersson - Karlsson
    G: Hellebuyck - Markstrom
    Bench: Fleury (G) - Pionk - Benn (C,LW) - Bratt (LW,RW)
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    Default Re: Trade Hellebuyck or Andersen

    Hard to say, Winnipeg has a lower cap number than Toronto, does that mean more flex to help in the future?

    Hellebuyck is 24 and Andersen is 28, not sure that matters either, but both could be starters for 8-10 years.

    If i had to pick, I would go with Hellebuyck, but I would still see what kind of trades either can bring in.
    H2H Points in a Fleaflicker Lg: Ten teams - Four make playoffs -- Roster: 28 Total-18 Starters, 10 Bench, +5 IR (Allowed 25 Keepers)
    Offense: HatTricks/Goals/PowerPlay/ShortHanded/Assist/PIM/FaceOffs/SOG/Plus-Minus
    Defense: Hits/Blocks
    Goalies: Win/Loss/OT Loss/ShutOut/Save/GA

    Center: Karlsson / Monahan / Scheifele / Trocheck / Luc-Dubois

    L/W: Brady Thachuk / Zucker / Jenner / JT Miller / Hyman

    R/W: Elias Lindholm / Dominik Kubalik / Stamkos / Teravainen

    W/F: DeBrincat / Tatar

    D: Ekholm / Seth Jones / Heiskanen / Hamilton / Sergachev

    G: MAF / Binnington / Koskinen

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    I think one factor that needs to be considered is "location of GM's". I have been in leagues that have wild biases toward certain teams. Based on sheer volume of people (hockey fans) alone in the Greater Toronto area this group tends to heavily affect player values. I think this is a fair question to ask.

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    Default Re: Trade Hellebuyck or Andersen

    Like most said target the leafs fan lol sorry leaf fans but we all know you overpay for your players

    How many teams in this league bc your team looks pretty good?

    I personally would look to package Anderson with benn and dumba and get upgrades and picks
    18 team H2H Keeper League
    G/A/PPP/SHP/GWG/SOG/FOW/Hits&blks/W/GAA/SV/SV%
    play 4c/8w/6d/1G (2min start)/6 bench/
    C: Hughes, Zacha, Howden, compher, Tierney, Frederic
    W: Gaudreau, Schwartz, M.Tkachuk, Fabbri, Bratt, Yamamoto, Wahlstrom, Okposo, Heinen, M.Folingo, Hinostroza, Mcginn
    D: Hughes, Ceci, Pelech, oleksiak, Holden, Poolman
    G: Markstrom, Oettinger,
    P:Rossi,Bowers,Heponiemi,Kupari,Wise,Dorofeyev,Fir stov,Clarke,Fortin,holloway,Nygard,Aberg,Rasmussen ,Elynuik,M.Jones,Chlapik,Platzer,Bracco,Kuokkanen, Lind,Liljegren,J.Roy,Montembeault,Raaymakers,Woll, prosvetov,Larmi

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    12 teams H2H and I'm in 3rd positions, but with 2nd most fantasy points not far behind the first team. With the said stats, Dumba is really valuable and I'm hoping he can take another step next year. If he does he'll be worth keeping. Not saying I won't trade him, I just mean to give you guys a clear picture.
    Multi categories 6-teams keeper league

    Keep 9, Points based
    Active: 3C-3LW-3RW-6D-2G (Daily rosters)
    Bench: 4
    Scoring for skaters: G (3), A (2), PP (0.5), +/- (0.2) Hits (0.2), Blocks (0.2), Extra 0.5 for D-men G and A
    Scoring for goalies: W (3), L (-1), OL + ShL (+1), GA (-1) Saves (0.2), Shutouts (1), SV%


    ROSTER:
    C: Crosby - McDavid - Trocheck
    LW: Kaprizov - J.T. Miller (C,RW) - Marchand
    RW: Rantanen (C) - Kucherov - Necas (C)
    D: Hedman - Dahlin - Hamilton- Heiskanen - R. Andersson - Karlsson
    G: Hellebuyck - Markstrom
    Bench: Fleury (G) - Pionk - Benn (C,LW) - Bratt (LW,RW)
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    Jets fans can be just as hardcore as leafs fans, there are just less of them. Point being trade the one that brings back the most value as both are good young keepers on good young teams.
    Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2

    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund

    Defense:
    B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin

    Goalie:
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    Whats the scoring cats for goaltenders? Both are going to get their wins, helly probably a better GAA but freddie faces a lot of shots which could add a lot more value to keep. Both are going to be top teams for years to come.
    H2H - Keep 3 players + 1 D - 12 teams - 2 C, 2 RW, 2 LW, 4 D, 2 G +bench.

    S - G, A, P, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG
    G - W, GAA, SV%, SO

    C - McDavid,Scheifele,
    RW -
    LW -
    D - Reilly
    G -

    H2H - Keep 4 players + 1 D - 12 - 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LW, 4 D, 2 G +bench.

    S - G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW, HITS, BLKS
    G- W, SV%, GAA, SO
    C- Seguin
    RW-Kane,Marner
    LW-
    D- Hedman
    G- Vasilevskiey


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