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    I agree for sure in a jeep 3 10 team league the premium is on the skaters not the goalies... You'll be able to find a good option in the draft regardless

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    Quote Originally Posted by LawMan View Post
    I would not be keeping Vasilevsky in a 10-team league. Vasi has had a great season but in a 10-team head-to-head goalies lose value in my opinion.

    I'd keep Kucherov, Stamkos and Laine. 3 premium scorers and PP specialists - tons of value in your league. If you can package any 2 of those and Vasilevsky for McDavid I would do that as well.
    Quote Originally Posted by FFleming5 View Post
    I agree for sure in a jeep 3 10 team league the premium is on the skaters not the goalies... You'll be able to find a good option in the draft regardless
    Surprised to hear you guys say that. Are you saying that because you think he won't be able to repeat this year's numbers next year? I expect him to win the Vezina this year and the last player to win it back to back was Brodeur - so him not doing as well next year would be a good bet. Or are you saying that because you think keeping a goalie in a 10 team H2H league with 3 keepers makes no sense?

    Our league places a large premium on goalies.

    Of the 30 players kept last year, 8 were goalies:
    Mike Smith
    Jonathan Quick
    Tuukka Rask
    Carey Price
    Pekka Rinne
    Sergei Bobrovsky
    Cam Talbot
    Matt Murray

    8 more were taken in the next 3 rounds. So of the first 60 players 16 were goalies and were pretty much the good-great goalies and some of the not so good ones too. Goalies are so valuable in our league that we set a limit of 1 goalie keeper per year. The 2 teams that didn't keep a goalie last year did not make the playoffs this year.

    4/11 cats are for goalies. We start 2 a day. Most teams have 3-5 goalies in their 17 player roster. Good goalies are hard to find - great goalies are near impossible. One of the big reasons I came first in the regular season this year is because of Vasilevsky. The fact that I drafted him this year and can keep him for 2 years (versus one for Laine and Stamkos) is a huge bonus.

    The first pick this year (after the 3 rounds of keepers) was Holtby. I was second pick and I wanted him, but took Kucherov instead. If I were to drop Vasilevsky, pretty sure he would go very high in the draft next year - maybe even number 1. Between him and Laine, if I were to draft 8th - 10th next year, I think I would be more like to get Laine than Vasilevsky. With that said, if I were to drop both, then I expect they would both be gone by the time drafting got to me at the bottom.
    In a 10 league where we start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D and 2 G daily. It is a H2H league - we keep 3 players (1 G max), are allowed a max of 2 keeps for each player. The number in brackets is the number of keeps I have left:

    G, A, +/-, PIMs, PPG, PPA and Shots.
    C - Larkin, Couturier, Kopitar, Cirelli
    LW - OV, Panarin (1), Schenn (C), Ehlers (RW), Kreider
    RW - Kucherov (0), Seguin (C), Palmieri, Voracek, Yamamoto
    D - Yandle, DeAngelo

    W, GAA, SV% and Saves.
    G - Rask, Varlamov, Hart, Mrazek
    IR+ - Tarasenko

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    Quote Originally Posted by anthonybeaty View Post
    Surprised to hear you guys say that. Are you saying that because you think he won't be able to repeat this year's numbers next year? I expect him to win the Vezina this year and the last player to win it back to back was Brodeur - so him not doing as well next year would be a good bet. Or are you saying that because you think keeping a goalie in a 10 team H2H league with 3 keepers makes no sense?

    Our league places a large premium on goalies.

    Of the 30 players kept last year, 8 were goalies:
    Mike Smith
    Jonathan Quick
    Tuukka Rask
    Carey Price
    Pekka Rinne
    Sergei Bobrovsky
    Cam Talbot
    Matt Murray

    8 more were taken in the next 3 rounds. So of the first 60 players 16 were goalies and were pretty much the good-great goalies and some of the not so good ones too. Goalies are so valuable in our league that we set a limit of 1 goalie keeper per year. The 2 teams that didn't keep a goalie last year did not make the playoffs this year.

    4/11 cats are for goalies. We start 2 a day. Most teams have 3-5 goalies in their 17 player roster. Good goalies are hard to find - great goalies are near impossible. One of the big reasons I came first in the regular season this year is because of Vasilevsky. The fact that I drafted him this year and can keep him for 2 years (versus one for Laine and Stamkos) is a huge bonus.

    The first pick this year (after the 3 rounds of keepers) was Holtby. I was second pick and I wanted him, but took Kucherov instead. If I were to drop Vasilevsky, pretty sure he would go very high in the draft next year - maybe even number 1. Between him and Laine, if I were to draft 8th - 10th next year, I think I would be more like to get Laine than Vasilevsky. With that said, if I were to drop both, then I expect they would both be gone by the time drafting got to me at the bottom.
    Both because I expect some regression from Vasilevsky and because goalies should be more plentiful in a 10-team league.
    Looking at the list of goalies kept:
    Mike Smith - good but not great season
    Jonathan Quick - good season
    Tuukka Rask- great season
    Carey Price- terrible season after being a top 3 goalie keeper projection
    Pekka Rinne - great season after bad season
    Sergei Bobrovsky - good season
    Cam Talbot - terrible after being a top 3 goalie keeper projection
    Matt Murray - terrible after being a top 5-8 goalie keeper projection

    That being said you know your league better than us and seem dead set on keeping Vasilevsky. Stamkos and Laine are very close. I would probably keep Laine over Stamkos by the slimmest of margins because he is still rising and Stamkos has had a few injuries here and there.
    12 team H-2-H 1 year league, daily roster changes, 3 goalie start minimum/week
    2xC, 2xRW, 2xLW, 4xD, 3xUtil, 2xG, 5 Bench
    G, A, P, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG, Hits, W, SV%, GAA, SVs
    C: C. Keller, C. Mittelstadt, B. Nelson, R. Strome,
    LW: K. Connor, B. Tkachuk, J. Gaudreau, J. Marchessault, E. Rodrigues, A. Lafreniere
    RW: K. Fiala, J. Bratt, T. Jeannot V. Arvidsson
    D: R. Josi, J. Trouba, E. Gustafsson,
    G: L. Thompson, F. Gustavsson, V. Vanecek
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    The decision is now upon me. Last chance to provide opinions. Choose three to keep:

    Kucherov
    Laine
    Stamkos
    Vasilevsky

    Thanks.
    In a 10 league where we start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D and 2 G daily. It is a H2H league - we keep 3 players (1 G max), are allowed a max of 2 keeps for each player. The number in brackets is the number of keeps I have left:

    G, A, +/-, PIMs, PPG, PPA and Shots.
    C - Larkin, Couturier, Kopitar, Cirelli
    LW - OV, Panarin (1), Schenn (C), Ehlers (RW), Kreider
    RW - Kucherov (0), Seguin (C), Palmieri, Voracek, Yamamoto
    D - Yandle, DeAngelo

    W, GAA, SV% and Saves.
    G - Rask, Varlamov, Hart, Mrazek
    IR+ - Tarasenko

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    Kucherov
    Laine
    Vasilevsky

    McDavid/Necas/ Kucherov/Bjorkstrand/Rust/Nugent Hopkins/Cirelli/Zegras/- Letang/Morrissey/Dahlin - Swayman/Saros/Skinner

    Prospects include:
    McTavish/Clarke/Bordeleau
    Dumais/Korchinski/Hutson

    Don't worry I'm not going to say anything more than I have to. If that.

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