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    Default H2H Goalie Categories - Total Saves vs. SV%

    So my 12-team H2H league currently has 11 categories with 8 of them being offensive stats. We wanted to add an extra goalie category to increase the value and importance of them for next year.
    League voted to add GAA and to replace SV% with Total Saves made (Wins, Shutouts, GAA, and Saves). Does anyone have experience with Total Saves? Good/Bad idea?
    Worth using in place of Save %?

    Are we all idiots? haha

    We were just trying to spice things up going into our 11th year with this league.
    12 team H2H Keep-6
    G/A/PPP/GWG/PIM/SOG/HIT/BLK/W/SV%/SHO
    3C/3LW/3RW/5Def/1UTIL/1G

    C: Crosby, Bergeron, Draisaitl
    LW: Marchand, Pacioretty, Guentzel, M. Hoffman, N. Ritchie
    RW: Wheeler, Pastrnak, Palmieri, Killorn, Rust
    D: Karlsson, Byfuglien, Letang, Muzzin, Dumba, Edler,
    G: Freddie, M. Smith

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    Having Shutouts as it's own category is the bigger issue for me. If you can combine them with wins, adding a bonus for shutouts, that's what I'd do. If not, just do away with them.

    Total Saves and Save Percentage are great categories. Personally, my favorite option for having 4 goalie cats is Wins (or, if on Fantrax, GPTS10), Saves, Save %, and GAA.


    14 Team H2H Cap (NHL + 30%) Fantrax
    G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | GPT10 SV SV% GAA

    ROSWELL INVADERS

    C: Scheifele, Dubinksky, Bellemare, Zetterberg, Koivu
    LW: Gaudreau, Forsberg, Neal, Domi
    RW: Wheeler, Eberle, Atkinson
    D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Schultz, Hainsey, Dumba, van Riemsdyk
    G: Holtby, Talbot, Stalock

    IR: de Haan, Mason, Hutchinson, Pavelec

    FARM: Connor, Hartman, Bracco, Senyshyn, Elie, Graovac, Puempel, Martinsen, Theodore

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    Default Re: H2H Goalie Categories - Total Saves vs. SV%

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMario View Post
    Having Shutouts as it's own category is the bigger issue for me. If you can combine them with wins, adding a bonus for shutouts, that's what I'd do. If not, just do away with them.

    Total Saves and Save Percentage are great categories. Personally, my favorite option for having 4 goalie cats is Wins (or, if on Fantrax, GPTS10), Saves, Save %, and GAA.
    First off... what is GPTS 10?

    AS for the question above... I like having Saves or Save Percentage... it allows for good goalies on bad teams to still be fantasy relevant.
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    Yep I hate Shutouts too and need to get them out of my keeper.
    12 team H2H, Keep 8
    G, A, PPP, SOG, Hits
    W, GAA, SV%, SO

    C:Crosby,Giroux,ROR
    LW:Ovie,Hall,Guentzel,Lee, Smith
    RW:Pavelski,Simmonds,Palmieri
    D:Carlson,Gardiner,Faulk,Josi,Hagg
    G: Lundqvist,Lehner,Miller
    IR:Carter, Kreider, Crawford

    10 team Yearly H2H
    G,A,PPP,SOG,Hits,Blks
    W,L,GAA,SV%,SO

    C:McDavid,MacK,Kopitar
    LW:Marchand,Marchessault,Rakell,Lee
    RW:Seguin,Wheeler,Heinen,Okposo
    D:AP,Edler,Petry,Hedman
    G:Talbot,Vas,Dubnyk
    IR:Carter

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    GPTS is essentially Wins + (shutouts X 2).

    So, wins = 1 point, shutouts = 3

    I call them "win points".


    14 Team H2H Cap (NHL + 30%) Fantrax
    G A DPTS FOW SOG STP H+B | GPT10 SV SV% GAA

    ROSWELL INVADERS

    C: Scheifele, Dubinksky, Bellemare, Zetterberg, Koivu
    LW: Gaudreau, Forsberg, Neal, Domi
    RW: Wheeler, Eberle, Atkinson
    D: Klingberg, Gostisbehere, Schultz, Hainsey, Dumba, van Riemsdyk
    G: Holtby, Talbot, Stalock

    IR: de Haan, Mason, Hutchinson, Pavelec

    FARM: Connor, Hartman, Bracco, Senyshyn, Elie, Graovac, Puempel, Martinsen, Theodore

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    Default Re: H2H Goalie Categories - Total Saves vs. SV%

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperMario View Post
    GPTS is essentially Wins + (shutouts X 2).

    So, wins = 1 point, shutouts = 3

    I call them "win points".
    it's a fantrax term...

    I agree SO's shouldn't be its own category. SV's are good as it encourages teams to PLAY goalies if you have W SV SVPCT GAA -- you now have 2 cats that require G starts to win. rather than no saves and a team is more willing to ride a Mon. shut out to win goalie cats.
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    I've got decades worth of experience in a league where the only goalie category is SV% with a shutout bonus. Some experience with total saves.

    Total Saves gives a lot more goalies viability, and will give more options to jury-rig a combo in net. You'll want goalies who see a ton of shots against, and reliably save a good percentage of them over a number of years. Ieally, they've been on a team that plays that style, and are above average at delivering quality starts.
    10 team Head-to-head true dynasty. Roster 33, draft 2, cut down before season. Start 1 G, 1-2 backup G's, 6 D, 12 F arranged in 4 lines of 3. Only categories that matter are Goals, Assists, Save% with a shutout bonus. Having NHL teammates helps.

    G: Holtby
    Backup G: F Andersen
    D: Carlson, Niskanen, Orlov, Letang, Klingberg, Gostisbehere
    F1: Benn, Seguin, MacKinnon
    F2: Wheeler, Tavares, Bailey
    F3: Voracek, Giroux, Couturier
    F4: Stamkos, Namestnikov, Point

    Bench:
    G: (none)
    D: M Reilly, Ekman-Larsson, Werenski
    F: Schiefele, JT Miller, Guentzel, Pavelski, Killorn, Bjorkstrand, Tuch, Labanc, Nyquist, Tatar

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    Datsyuk

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