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    Default Time to bail on Vatanen?

    I'm in 1st place in my dynasty league, H2H points, daily lineups. G, A, STP, +/-, SOG, Hits.

    Start 4D daily: Klingberg, Shattenkirk, Rielly, Orlov, Severson, Seabrook, Vatanen

    He's doing absolutely nothing and I'd like to open up a spot. I'm thin on defensive depth, and I had originally figured on Seabrook, thinking Vatanen would find some kind of offense, but this is absurd. There are better options on the WW in terms of current production.

    Is Vatanen done in terms of fantasy?
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    G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)

    C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
    W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
    G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
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    short answer - yes..
    long answer yeeeeeeeeessssssssss... drop him. esp if there are clear upgrades on the wire
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    short answer - yes..
    long answer yeeeeeeeeessssssssss... drop him. esp if there are clear upgrades on the wire
    Relatively speaking - still pretty slim pickin's.
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    G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)

    C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
    W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
    G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
    Fm - Bordeleau, Barlow, Lucius, G.Perreault, Luneau, Perunovich, Nikishin

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrairieDog View Post
    Relatively speaking - still pretty slim pickin's.
    not surprised ,what are the top options?
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    i bailed on teh weekend..

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    Is now the time to bail on Vatanen? Absolutely not. The time to bail was about a year ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SergeP View Post
    Is now the time to bail on Vatanen? Absolutely not. The time to bail was about a year ago.
    haha very accurate here.
    10 team H2H points league (keep 4) - G, A, P, PPP, SHP, SOG, Hit, Blk, W, GA, SV, SHO
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    so ironic how we all bash vatanen and then he gets an assist on the devils first goal tonight. first point with the team
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    not surprised ,what are the top options?
    Stralman, Chara, Wingels, Shaw, Rust, Tierney (doesn't have to be a dman) - not much but they're getting more than twice as many fantasy points as Vatanen. It would basically be a rotating position (2 add/week) for now until a farm player has to stay up.

    Thanks guys - of course he gets a point tonight to make me hesitate. He's getting tons of ice/pp time so I've been hoping for something.
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    G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)

    C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
    W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
    G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
    Fm - Bordeleau, Barlow, Lucius, G.Perreault, Luneau, Perunovich, Nikishin

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    Man, he didn't even make it to Tobias Enstrom status before falling off... He's not even that old, but what the hell happened here? He just doesn't look anywhere near as dynamic as he once did.

    Maybe Chara....?
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    Time to bump this thread--seems it just took him awhile to get rolling in NJ.

    14 points in his last 13 games (with some to go yet tonight).
    Loving that I got him for next to nothing immediately after the trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STONE. View Post
    Time to bump this thread--seems it just took him awhile to get rolling in NJ.

    14 points in his last 13 games (with some to go yet tonight).
    Loving that I got him for next to nothing immediately after the trade.
    I made the mistake of dropping him in one league, but I held onto him in another. Amazing how everything can change - I bet people were bailing on Duchene a few months ago too.
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    G (3), A (2), STP (1), SHOG (1), +/- (0.5), SOG (0.2), Hits (0.2), Blk (0.2), FOW (0.1); W (5), SO (2), Sv (0.2), GA (-1)

    C - Draisaitl (W), Hughes, Larkin, Trochek
    W - T.Thompson (C), Pastrnak, Reinhart, Batherson, Nichushkin, Duchene (C), Zuccarello
    D - Dahlin, Theodore, Bouchard, Faber, Werenski, Skjei
    G - Jarry, Gustavsson, Montembault
    Fm - Bordeleau, Barlow, Lucius, G.Perreault, Luneau, Perunovich, Nikishin

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    24 points in 43 games since acquiring the 'new jersey'. Yes, Vatanen is shining as a Devil. It took a little while, but it appears in the last 2-3 weeks he has taken over the #1 PP quarterback duties from Butcher which has been the impetus that helped his production skyrocket.
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    I traded him for Elias Lindholm.... I'm not happy... so I guess I remain unhappy... having owned Vatanen through the bad and now Lindholm through the bad...
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    Choose him over Green ROS? pts only

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