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    Jesperi Kotkaniemi finally cracks the top-31 here as well and jumps straight to #24. Besides Kotkaniemi, the biggest risers seem to be Barrett Hayton (from #25 to #16) and Noah Dobson (from #31 to 19). Adam Boqvist is still surprisingly low at #8 considering most others have him in their top-5.

    Filip Johansson and Jonathan Tychonick drop out of top-31 after being there in November ranking.

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    ISS Hockey Top 31 Ranked Prospects for 2018 NHL Draft

    Rank Player Name Position DOB Shot Height Weight Team League Previous Rank
    1 Dahlin, Rasmus LD 4/13/2000 L 6.02 181 Vastra Frolunda SweE 1
    2 Svechnikov, Andrei RW/C 3/26/2000 L 6.02* 186 Barrie OHL 2
    3 Tkachuk, Brady C 9/16/1999 L 6.03.25* 196 Boston U. H. E 3
    4 Zadina, Filip RW 11/27/1999 L 6.00* 196 Halifax QMJHL 4
    5 Hughes, Quinn LD 10/14/1999 L 5.09.5* 170 U. of Michigan Big Ten 6
    6 Wahlstrom, Oliver C 6/13/2000 R 6.00.75* 205 USA U18 NTDP 5
    7 Veleno, Joseph C 1/13/2000 L 6.01* 195 Saint John QMJHL 7
    8 Boqvist, Adam LD 8/15/2000 R 5.11 170 Brynas IF Jr. SweJE 8
    9 McLeod, Ryan C 9/21/1999 L 6.02* 200 Mississauga OHL 9
    10 Kupari, Rasmus C 3/15/2000 R 6.01.25 183 Karpat Oulu FinE 10
    11 Smith, Ty LD 3/24/2000 L 5.10.25* 176 Spokane WHL 11
    12 Wilde, Bode RD 1/24/2000 R 6.02.25* 195 USA U18 NTDP 12
    13 Bouchard, Evan RD 10/20/1999 R 6.01.75* 193 London OHL 16
    14 Farabee, Joel LW 2/25/2000 L 5.11.5* 164 USA U18 NTDP 13
    15 Thomas, Akil C 1/2/2000 R 5.11* 169 Niagara OHL 14
    16 Hayton, Barrett C 6/9/2000 L 6.00.75* 191 Sault Ste. Marie OHL 25
    17 McIsaac, Jared LD 3/27/2000 L 6.01* 195 Halifax QMJHL 15
    18 Denisenko, Grigori LW 6/24/2000 R 5.11 165 Yaroslavl Loko RusJr 18
    19 Dobson, Noah RD 1/7/2000 R 6.02.75* 180 Acadie-Bathurst QMJHL 31
    20 Alexeyev, Alexander RD 11/15/1999 R 6.03* 200 Red Deer WHL 22
    21 Groulx, Benoit-Olivier C 2/6/2000 L 6.00.75* 192 Halifax QMJHL 19
    22 Lundestrom, Isac C 11/6/1999 L 6.00.5 185 Lulea HF SweE 21
    23 Merkley, Ryan RD 8/14/2000 R 5.11.25* 170 Guelph OHL 27
    24 Kotkaniemi, Jesperi C 7/6/2000 L 6.01.5* 188 Assat FinE NR
    25 Sutter, Riley RW 10/25/1999 R 6.03* 205 Everett WHL 17
    26 McBain, Jack LW 1/6/2000 L 6.03 194 Toronto OJHL 23
    27 Woo, Jett RD 7/27/2000 R 5.11.75* 205 Moose Jaw WHL 20
    28 Ginning, Adam RD 1/13/2000 L 6.03 196 Linkoping HC SweE 29
    29 Samuelsson, Adam LD 6/21/2000 L 6.05.75* 240 USA U18 NTDP 24
    30 Olofsson, Jacob C 2/8/2000 L 6.02 192 Timra IK SweAl 26
    31 Noel, Serron RW 8/8/2000 R 6.04.75* 200 Oshawa OHL NR
    Goalies
    1 Ingham, Jacob G 6/10/2000 L 6.03.5* 186 Mississauga OHL NR
    2 Rodrigue, Olivier G 7/6/2000 L 6.00.25* 159 Drummondville QMJHL 1
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    Bottom 5 teams right now:

    1. Buffalo
    2. Arizona
    3. Florida
    4. Edmonton
    5. Ottawa

    Can't see any of them passing on Dahlin for Svech.

    Also wtf is Edmonton and Ottawa doing at the bottom 5, many were calling these teams cup contenders.

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    if Edm ends up with #2 pick... would they really draft another C??
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    if Edm ends up with #2 pick... would they really draft another C??
    It seems like ISS is completely confused about player positions. Svechnikov definitely doesn't play center.
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    Wonder where Nico & Nolan would slide in here

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Black Panther View Post
    Wonder where Nico & Nolan would slide in here
    Nico battling Svech for #2.. Patrick probably 4th
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    After WJC, Zadina impress me and I put him 2nd after Dahlin.

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    Very shocking that people start drawing drastic conclusions based on just six WJC games...

    What people often forget is that Zadina and Tkachuk are a year older than Svechnikov, and that extra development time is huge for such young players. I'm not saying it's wrong to rank either one over Svechnikov as they're all very close but it's important to remember that difference when only looking at the WJC and what they can do this year. A better comparison would be to look at their previous years and compare it to Svechnikov's current year. A year ago, Zadina and Tkachuk didn't even play at the WJC as 17-year-olds but Svechnikov did play now as a 17-year-old. Most likely, all three are playing in the NHL next season, so personally I'd rather have the younger guy. But I'm not sure if that still means I'd have Svechnikov second overall as Adam Boqvist has a good case to be ranked there as well. He needs more time before he's playing in the NHL but his upside is huge.

    All that being said, I do expect most rankings to be like this after the WJC:
    Dahlin
    Zadina
    Tkachuk
    Svechnikov
    Boqvist/Hughes

    That's just what always happens at the WJC. And then things start to even out closer to the summer when the WJC is not fresh on everyone's mind anymore.
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    As a Halifax Moosehead supporter and fan, it's always fun at WJC time because their kids seem to get a nice boost from this tourney in recent years.

    Zadina this year. Meier in 2015. Ehlers in 2014. MacKinnon and Drouin in 2013.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Very shocking that people start drawing drastic conclusions based on just six WJC games...

    What people often forget is that Zadina and Tkachuk are a year older than Svechnikov, and that extra development time is huge for such young players. I'm not saying it's wrong to rank either one over Svechnikov as they're all very close but it's important to remember that difference when only looking at the WJC and what they can do this year. A better comparison would be to look at their previous years and compare it to Svechnikov's current year. A year ago, Zadina and Tkachuk didn't even play at the WJC as 17-year-olds but Svechnikov did play now as a 17-year-old. Most likely, all three are playing in the NHL next season, so personally I'd rather have the younger guy. But I'm not sure if that still means I'd have Svechnikov second overall as Adam Boqvist has a good case to be ranked there as well. He needs more time before he's playing in the NHL but his upside is huge.

    All that being said, I do expect most rankings to be like this after the WJC:
    Dahlin
    Zadina
    Tkachuk
    Svechnikov
    Boqvist/Hughes

    That's just what always happens at the WJC. And then things start to even out closer to the summer when the WJC is not fresh on everyone's mind anymore.
    Why you said ''Very shocking that people start drawing drastic conclusions based on just six WJC games... '' because we have the same top 4 after WJC.
    Dahlin
    Zadina
    Tkachuk
    Svechnikov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jouko-Pouko View Post
    Very shocking that people start drawing drastic conclusions based on just six WJC games...


    All that being said, I do expect most rankings to be like this after the WJC:
    Dahlin
    Zadina
    Tkachuk
    Svechnikov
    Boqvist/Hughes

    That's just what always happens at the WJC. And then things start to even out closer to the summer when the WJC is not fresh on everyone's mind anymore.
    I agree here with Svechnikov dropping after the tournament... as mentioned so much stock is put in this one tournament.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slythefly View Post
    Why you said ''Very shocking that people start drawing drastic conclusions based on just six WJC games... '' because we have the same top 4 after WJC.
    Dahlin
    Zadina
    Tkachuk
    Svechnikov
    That was not my ranking, that was how I expect most rankings to be after the WJC because of how much stock people put on the short tournament.
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    The experts are wrong in that case.

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