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    Hey all, what would you deem as decent trade value for Burnsy? This is the third season I've had him as my keeper and I've been getting some interest on him (trying to buy-low). I'm open to moving him if I can get fair value in return (I'm aware this is probably the worst time to move him). Goalies are worth quite a bit in my league (see sig.) and Darling hasn't been stellar. Would a Burns for Crawford move seem fair or am I selling myself short?
    12 Team H2H, 2 Keeper - 2017, 2018 Champion
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    Cats: G, A, +/-, PP, Shots, BLKS, Wins, SV%, SO, Min 2 goalie starts/week
    C: Stamkos, Point
    RW: Seguin, Kucherov
    LW: Connor, Forsberg
    D: Carlson, Letang, Toews, Krug
    G: Bob, Thompson
    Bench: E. Kane, Duchene, Sanderson, W. Karlsson

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    Goalies must be valuable with 4/9 cats. Seems way too high.

    If you're going to move him for a goalie id shoot for Murray/ Vas/Holtby. I feel Crawford isn't terrible but that you can do better.
    Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2

    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund

    Defense:
    B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin

    Goalie:
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    Yes, 2 goalies are responsible for 4 of the 9 cats hence the inflated value. All elite tenders are usually drafted in the first and second round, or kept. It also makes them very hard to acquire
    12 Team H2H, 2 Keeper - 2017, 2018 Champion
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    Cats: G, A, +/-, PP, Shots, BLKS, Wins, SV%, SO, Min 2 goalie starts/week
    C: Stamkos, Point
    RW: Seguin, Kucherov
    LW: Connor, Forsberg
    D: Carlson, Letang, Toews, Krug
    G: Bob, Thompson
    Bench: E. Kane, Duchene, Sanderson, W. Karlsson

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    I can't see you getting one of those elite goalies for burns right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Train View Post
    Yes, 2 goalies are responsible for 4 of the 9 cats hence the inflated value. All elite tenders are usually drafted in the first and second round, or kept. It also makes them very hard to acquire
    I'd considert holding burns until he scores a bit more. Crawford isn't a bad deal in your league I suppose. It just seems wrong to me but every league is different.
    Set roster weekly in H2H (Mon to Sun) - 16 Teams - start 6F, 3D, and 1G per week - Keep 2

    Points: 2 G / 2 A / 1 PPG / 1 PPA / 1 Hat Trick / 1 SHG / 1 SHA / 1 GWG - 3 Goalie Win / 2 Goalie Loss in SO or OT / 5 goalie SO

    Forwards:
    C. McDavid, N. Kucherov, R. O'Reilly, J. Schwartz, J. Toews, J. Huberdeau, T. Toffoli, M. Granlund

    Defense:
    B. Burns, J. Klingberg, R. Josi, J. Slavin

    Goalie:
    J. Binnington

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    Burns (plus a 5th rounder) got traded in my league for Boeser and a 3rd round pick. I think that's a steal IMO but the team trading him away is in last place and looking to aquire assets. Not sure why he rushed to do that now while Burns' value is absolute low but that was one deal. For whatever reason, my league mates don't view him that highly b/c of his age in a keeper league, despite his extreme value past few years.

    If you can afford to wait, I recommend doing so until it looks like he's heating up. He should be worth much more than now when folks start to believe he's trending back up.
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    G/A/PPP/GWG/PIM/SOG/HIT/BLK
    W/TotalSaves/GAA/SHO
    3C/3LW/3RW/5Def/1UTIL/1G

    C: Crosby, Kopitar, McCann
    LW: Marchand, R. Rakell, A. Lee, T. Meier
    RW: Wheeler, K. Palmieri, A. Shaw, Aston-Reese
    D: Klingberg, D. Nurse, J. Trouba, A. Larsson, Klefbom, Schultz
    G: Ben Bishop, Jakob Markstrom, M. Smith
    IR:
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    Yeah that seems realllly one sided to me. I've been toying with the idea of moving burns but i still think his value is super high. Most other threads regarding burns have eluded to the fact that his buying price still seems to be just below market value, even after this horrendous start he's had. That GM pretty much stole burns haha
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    C - Draisatl (c/w), Seguin (c/w), Aho, Couturier, Backstrom, Lindholm (c/w), Monahan
    W - P Kane, Hall, Wilson, E Kane, Dvorak, Lee
    D - Burns, McCavoy, Chabot, Werenski, Dahlin
    G - Vanacek, Merzlikins

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    One offer in the mix is Burns/Darling for Radulov/King Henrik. Not too jacked on it though cause Henrik's numbers have been declining pretty good, especially after getting shelled last night. Could prob switch him out for Rask in the deal but still not a large improvement over Darling.
    12 Team H2H, 2 Keeper - 2017, 2018 Champion
    Weekly Roster Set
    Cats: G, A, +/-, PP, Shots, BLKS, Wins, SV%, SO, Min 2 goalie starts/week
    C: Stamkos, Point
    RW: Seguin, Kucherov
    LW: Connor, Forsberg
    D: Carlson, Letang, Toews, Krug
    G: Bob, Thompson
    Bench: E. Kane, Duchene, Sanderson, W. Karlsson

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    Yeah, I was the only person who objected to it. Last year, Burns was traded to a contender late in the year for F. Forsberg straight up. Even that I had problems with b/c of Burns' value in my league format, but I was overruled again. These owners tend to value future potential over current-day value. Let's just say I've won the last two titles by building around veteran talent.
    12 team H2H Keep-6
    G/A/PPP/GWG/PIM/SOG/HIT/BLK
    W/TotalSaves/GAA/SHO
    3C/3LW/3RW/5Def/1UTIL/1G

    C: Crosby, Kopitar, McCann
    LW: Marchand, R. Rakell, A. Lee, T. Meier
    RW: Wheeler, K. Palmieri, A. Shaw, Aston-Reese
    D: Klingberg, D. Nurse, J. Trouba, A. Larsson, Klefbom, Schultz
    G: Ben Bishop, Jakob Markstrom, M. Smith
    IR:
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    Quote Originally Posted by estarr31 View Post
    Yeah, I was the only person who objected to it. Last year, Burns was traded to a contender late in the year for F. Forsberg straight up. Even that I had problems with b/c of Burns' value in my league format, but I was overruled again. These owners tend to value future potential over current-day value. Let's just say I've won the last two titles by building around veteran talent.
    i took a gamble in the off-season and traded Burns for Hedman...so far so good, even though Hedman hasn’t been performed up to form yet either.
    10 Team H2H Fantrax League, Points (Cats), Daily lineup, 3 claims / wk.
    F - 5, D - 4, G - 2, Skt - 1, Bench - 6, IR - 3

    F - P. Kane, Zibanejad, Couturier, E. Lindholm, Kopitar, B. Schenn, Kadri, Monahan, Hintz, Rust, Nylander
    D - Burns, D. Hamilton, Girard, Andersson
    G - Hellebuyck, Andersen, Samsonov

    Scoring -
    G - 1.4
    A - 1.4
    FOW - .4
    PPP - 1.1
    SOG - .8
    W - 1.1
    SV% - .6


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