Results 1 to 13 of 13

Thread: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

  1. #1
    Location
    Montreal, Canada
    Rep Power
    11

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Hi guys! Looking for advices from the pros. Im in the process of joinning a dynasty full keeper and I would be taking someone's team. The thing is I have the choice between 2 teams. Its my first time in a deeper league and first time dealing with the prospect/farm aspect of fantasy. Even though I know most of the top prospects, Im not 100% sure how to evaluate each teams.


    I'd like to know your point of view on a few things;


    What team would you take and why? What seems to be lacking in that team (Categories/prospects/positions)? and who are the best prospects within the team?


    Also, any tips that would help me get competitive as soon as possible in that kind of league would be appreciated

    thanks!




    League specifics:


    Teams : 16
    Roster Size: 24
    Roster Positions: 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 1 G, 5 B, 2 IR, 1 IR+
    Farm: 10


    Scoring:


    Head-to-Head scoring based on Yahoo?s hockey statistics.


    Forward/Defenseman Scoring:


    Goals (G), Assists (A), Points (P), Powerplay Points (PPP), Shots On Goal (SOG), Faceoffs Won (FW), Hits (HIT) and Blocks (BLK)


    Goaltender Scoring:


    Wins (W), Goals Against Average (GAA) and Save Percentage (SV%)




    The teams:


    *Blue players are farm eligible



    TEAM A (has 4th overall pick) TEAM B (has 6th overall pick)
    Forwards Forwards
    Tyler Seguin - C/RW (Dal) John Tavares - C (NYI)
    Henrik Sedin - C (Van) Ryan Getzlaf - C (Anh)
    Nick Bjugstad - C/RW (Fla) Frans Nielsen - C (Det)
    Alexander Wennberg - C (Cls) Tyler Bozak - C (Tor)
    JT Miller - C/LW//RW (NYR) Gabriel Landeskog - LW (Col)
    Brock Nelson - C/LW (NYI) Jason Zucker - LW/RW (Min)
    Carl Hagelin - LW (Pit) Jamie McGinn - LW/RW (Ari)
    Drew Stafford - RW (Bos) Blake Wheeler - RW (Wpg)
    Corey Perry - RW (Anh) Justin Abdelkader - LW/RW (Det)
    Jordan Eberle - RW (Edm) Lee Stempniak - LW/RW (Car)
    Wayne Simmonds - RW (Phi) Frank Vatrano - C/LW (Bos)
    Michael Frolik - C/RW (Cgy) German Rubtsov - C (Phi)
    Mathew Barzal - C (NYI) Tyler Motte - C/LW/RW (Chi)
    Nick Schmaltz - C/LW (Chi) Kyle Connor - LW (Wpg)
    Teemu Pulkkinen - LW/RW (Ari) Jimmy Vesey - LW (NYR)
    Artturi Lehkonen - LW (Mon) Adrian Kempe - LW (LA)
    JT Compher - LW (Col) Phillip Di Giuseppe - LW/RW (Car)
    Charles Hudon - LW (Mon) Oliver Bjorkstrand - RW (Cls)
    Daniel Carr - LW (Mon) Alex Tuch - RW (Min)
    Daniel Sprong - RW (Pit) Daniel Pribyl - C/RW (Cgy)
    Nick Merkley - RW (Ari)
    Defensemen
    Defensemen
    Oliver Ekman-Larsson - D (Ari)
    Dustin Byfuglien - D (Wpg) Tyson Barrie - D (Col)
    Justin Faulk - D (Car) Brent Seabrook - D (Chi)
    Seth Jones - D (Cls) Erik Johnson - D (Col)
    TJ Brodie - D (Cgy) Zdeno Chara - D (Bos)
    Travis Hamonic - D (NYI) Michael Matheson - D (Fla)
    Kevin Bieksa - D (Anh) Stephen Johns - D (Dal)
    Jason Demers - D (Fla)
    Charles McAvoy - D (Bos) Goaltenders
    Samuel Girard - D (Nsh)
    Chad Johnson - G (Cgy)
    Goaltenders Connor Hellebuyck - G (Wpg)
    Calvin Pickard - G (Col)
    Petr Mrazek - G (Det) Daniel Vladar - G (Bos)
    Semyon Varlamov - G (Col)
    Louis Domingue - G (Ari)
    MacKenzie Blackwood - G (NJ)
    16 teams Dynasty H2H, 25 Pro 17 Farm 4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 6B
    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,
    Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook

  2. #2
    Location
    NS, Canada
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Master

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    I'd take the team with Seguin. More experience but not too old, some real forward bangers like Simmonds and Perry who will help with the peripheral categories, the slightly better dman corps, and while I'm not a fan of either goaltending group, you have the guys who are more likely to get starts in the NHL.

    Bottleneckers (12/16 in 2022)
    16 team, points only. G: 2-W, 4-SO.
    Top 9F, 4D & 1G . Keep 15, Max 23
    F: J. Robertson, J. Hughes, Tavares, Lafreniere, Cozens, Newhook, Teravainen, Domi, R. Strome, Laine, Rossi, Raymond, Holtz, Perfetti
    D: Bouchard, McAvoy, Morrissey, Heiskanen
    G: Vasilevskiy



  3. #3
    Moses's Avatar
    Moses is offline
    Join Date
    Aug 2013
    Posts
    4,242
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Genius

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bottlenecker View Post
    I'd take the team with Seguin. More experience but not too old, some real forward bangers like Simmonds and Perry who will help with the peripheral categories, the slightly better dman corps, and while I'm not a fan of either goaltending group, you have the guys who are more likely to get starts in the NHL.
    YES. I concur.
    - I said... "God damn this tablet is heavy!"

  4. #4
    Rep Power
    20

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Third vote for Team Seguin.
    5.5X Champs
    20 Team Dynasty (Unique Cap) H2H 23 Man roster - 20 Minor
    G,A,SOG,PIM,HIT,BLK,FO%,2G+A,D-pts,STG,GWG+SHP+ShootoutG
    W,SV%,GAA,SO Start 4 C,LW,RW/6D/2G Min 3 start/ 3Bench/6IR

    C-Hischier,W.Nylander,
    Benn
    LW-Guentzel,B.Tkachuk
    ,Marchand,Gaudreau
    RW-A.Svechnikov,M.Tkachuk,Duclair,Mantha
    D-Provorov,McAvoy,Gudas,Doughty,Dunn,McDonagh
    G-Hart,Vanecek
    B-
    Brannstrom,Crouse
    Prospects
    Rossi,Berggren,Sillinger,Giv.Smith,Perreault,Kaspe r,Gauthier,Miroshnichenko,R.Johnson
    Perunovich,Salo,Capobianco,Mackey,Woo,Benning,A.Jo hansson,Thrun
    Skinner,Martin,Ingram,Fedotov
    ​Entry Draft 5 Rds [<60gp] '23 2,3,3,5
    Cap 77.82M/82.5M

    Twitter @MatsonHockey


  5. #5
    Dennis's Avatar
    Dennis is online now
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,000
    Location
    Hamilton, ON
    Rep Power
    44

    Dobber Sports Expert

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Fourth vote for the Canadiens.

    Full disclosure though, I just took over the Jets in that league. Welcome!

  6. #6
    Location
    Valley Forge, PA
    Rep Power
    21

    Dobber Sports Apprentice

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    I would go with Team A - outside of your goaltenders this team has a good foundation that will keep you competitive in H2H in the near term. If you can acquire a 1A goalie, your team can be a top 3 contender this year.
    2012 DobberHockey Hall of Fame - Player's Category

  7. #7
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Deity

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    I would go with Team B. Here's why:

    When I look at taking over a team, the first thing I always look at is the goalies because I find they tend to be the hardest thing to acquire in a trade in any fantasy league and they usually hold the most value. If you already have a good base for your goalies, the skaters will come with time. I don't like ANY of the goalies for value on Team A. At least Team B has Hellebuyck to work with. Even if he isn't a great goalie today, he holds much better value than Mrazek and Varlamov in my eyes. I also like Pickard going forward as well.

    I also prefer the prospects on the Tavares side a lot more too. Better blocks to build with long term.

    Both teams have some very good players and some blah ones.

    Team B for me!
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."

  8. #8
    Location
    Montreal, Canada
    Rep Power
    11

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    thanks all for your inputs! sounds like team Seguin (or team Canadiens for Dennis :P ) is the favorite. Althought I understand the concern about the goalie situation... I'll have to check what can I do to upgrade my goaltenders.

    On another note, what about the prospect, I feel like both team lacks of young studs for the futur and that both team are ?old? and close to declining. Do I need to start looking into rebuilding? Or I am overthinking this?

    J.
    16 teams Dynasty H2H, 25 Pro 17 Farm 4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 6B
    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,
    Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook

  9. #9
    Location
    Montreal, Canada
    Rep Power
    11

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Hey guys!

    Went back to this thread because I was looking at a way to see how my team looked at the beginning. Since then it changed alot, so I figured I would share the evolution of my team with you guys since you helped me chose the team back then.

    So a little more than one year after taking over the team and alot of trades here how it looks;
    Team then Team now
    Forwards Forwards
    Tyler Seguin - C/RW (Dal) Tyler Seguin - C/RW (Dal)
    Henrik Sedin - C (Van) Nathan MacKinnon - C (Col)
    Nick Bjugstad - C/RW (Fla) Jonathan Toews - C (Chi)
    Alexander Wennberg - C (Cls) Tyler Bozak - C (StL)
    JT Miller - C/LW//RW (NYR) Artem Anisimov - C (Chi)
    Brock Nelson - C/LW (NYI) Gabriel Landeskog - LW (Col)
    Carl Hagelin - LW (Pit) Max Pacioretty - LW (Mon)
    Drew Stafford - RW (Bos) Evander Kane - LW (SJ)
    Corey Perry - RW (Anh) Ondrej Palat - LW (TB)
    Jordan Eberle - RW (Edm) Brock Nelson - C/LW (NYI)
    Wayne Simmonds - RW (Phi) Jakub Voracek - RW (Phi)
    Michael Frolik - C/RW (Cgy) Jordan Eberle - C/RW (NYI)
    Mathew Barzal - C (NYI) Mats Zuccarello - RW (NYR)
    Nick Schmaltz - C/LW (Chi) JT Miller - C/LW/RW (TB)
    Teemu Pulkkinen - LW/RW (Ari) David Perron - LW/RW (StL)
    Artturi Lehkonen - LW (Mon) Cody Glass - C (VGK)
    JT Compher - LW (Col) Jan Kovar - C (NYI)
    Charles Hudon - LW (Mon) Akil Thomas - C (LA)
    Daniel Carr - LW (Mon) Mark Jankowski - C (Cgy)
    Daniel Sprong - RW (Pit) Mason Appleton - C (Wpg)
    Nick Merkley - RW (Ari) Filip Zadina - LW (Det)
    Klim Kostin - C/LW (StL)
    Defensemen Andreas Johnsson - LW (Tor)
    Daniel Sprong - RW (Pit)
    Dustin Byfuglien - D (Wpg) Alex Tuch - RW (VGK)
    Justin Faulk - D (Car) Austin Czarnik - C/RW (Cgy)
    Seth Jones - D (Cls)
    TJ Brodie - D (Cgy) Defensemen
    Travis Hamonic - D (NYI)
    Kevin Bieksa - D (Anh) Rasmus Ristolainen - D (Buf)
    Jason Demers - D (Fla) Seth Jones - D (Cls)
    Charles McAvoy - D (Bos) Cam Fowler - D (Anh)
    Samuel Girard - D (Nsh) Marc-Edouard Vlasic - D (SJ)
    Jaccob Slavin - D (Car)
    Goaltenders Charlie McAvoy - D (Bos)
    Erik Gustafsson - (Chi)
    Petr Mrazek - G (Det) Neal Pionk - D (NYR)
    Semyon Varlamov - G (Col) Sami Niku - D (Wpg)
    Louis Domingue - G (Ari) Rasmus Sandin - D (Tor)
    MacKenzie Blackwood - G (NJ)
    Goaltenders
    Connor Hellebuyck - G (Wpg)
    Semyon Varlamov - G (Col)
    Petr Mrazek - G (Car)


    Thanks to all the good advices here I went and finished 2nd overall in the season and 2nd in the playoffs. This team was dead last when I took over. Now I think Im contending again this year. Pretty happy how it turned out.

    *Sorry for the bad formating, Ive had a hard time copying the data from my pool to the forum for some reason.. (aka Im bad at this lol)
    *Eddit again, finaly succed at showing team side by side LOL
    16 teams Dynasty H2H, 25 Pro 17 Farm 4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 6B
    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,
    Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook

  10. #10
    DusterDave's Avatar
    DusterDave is offline
    Join Date
    Dec 2015
    Posts
    4,995
    Rep Power
    48

    Big Daddy

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    That?s a big improvement in a single year. Well done.

  11. #11
    Dennis's Avatar
    Dennis is online now
    Join Date
    Sep 2016
    Posts
    3,000
    Location
    Hamilton, ON
    Rep Power
    44

    Dobber Sports Expert

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Very admirable turn around Justin! You've made some very savvy moves, competing for the championship while gaining a lottery pick and Hellboy! Great stuff.

    You're going down next season though.

  12. #12
    Location
    Montreal, Canada
    Rep Power
    11

    Dobber Sports Blue-Chipper

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    Very admirable turn around Justin! You've made some very savvy moves, competing for the championship while gaining a lottery pick and Hellboy! Great stuff.

    You're going down next season though.
    Haha thanks Dennis for the kind words! But I wouldn't bet on my team to go down that easily
    16 teams Dynasty H2H, 25 Pro 17 Farm 4C 4LW 4RW 6D 1G 6B
    Cats: G, A, P, PPP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK, W, GAA, SV%

    C: Mackinnon, Matthews, Seguin(RW), Stamkos(LW/RW), Couturier
    LW: E. Kane, Pacioretty, Rakell(RW), Miller(RW), Palat, Johnsson
    RW: Voracek, Dadonov(LW), Pavelski(C), Eberle, Olofsson
    D: Burns, Jones, Ristolainen, Gustafsson, Weber, Fowler, D.Toews
    G: Hellebucyk, Varlamov, Mrazek

    Farm: R.Suzuki, Garland, Kostin, A.Thomas, Appleton,
    Kahun, Marody, Dorofeyev, Paul, Lizotte, Fox, ¨Perunovich, Beaudin, Rosen, Walker, Brook

  13. #13
    Location
    Ottawa
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Ninja

    Default Re: Help me choose the best team! full keeper take over

    Wow, that is some nice work.
    "For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry God. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now and at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon. Amen." - Sterling Archer

    "Don't spray that urine on my sons window. If you want a dollar for doing nothing, walk to Canada." - Malory Archer

    “Anyone who thinks the pen is mightier than the sword has not been stabbed with both.” - Lemony Snicket

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •