How much is too much for McDavid?

[CCB2016]

15 team roto league - keep 10 (1 goalie max) - Goals, Assists, +/-, PPP's, Hits, Blocked Shots


I've been offered Connor McDavid in exchange for Auston Matthews, Mitch Marner, and Zach Werenski....and I'm not really tempted by the offer honestly. But here's the dilemma: I've narrowed my "keeper worthy" talent down to the following, with bolded players being my current list of 10 (these are all players currently on my team):

Auston Matthews
Joe Pavelski
Sidney Crosby
Jake Guentzel
Artemi Panarin
Sebastian Aho
Nikolaj Ehlers
Nikita Kucherov
Mitch Marner
Patrik Laine
Erik Karlsson
Rasmus Ristolainen
Ivan Provorov
Zach Werenski
Jesse Puljujarvi
Kyle Connor
Matt Murray - is my one keeper goalie


Seeing as how we can only keep 10 players total, and one of those is Murray, that leaves me with 9 spots for offensive players. I love guys like Guentzel and Werenski, but I can't justify keeping them over the others, can I? Also, with blocked shots and hits being categories, that essentially eliminates Werenski from the discussion - but makes a guy like Ristolainen extremely valuable and I think I almost have to keep him - he and Karlsson are probably the top 2 ranked d-men in my league next year. This is the same reasoning for keeping a guy like Pavelski. Yes, he's older - but he provides a good number of hits that a guy like Ehlers does not. I'm tempted to trade Ehlers, but keep going back and forth on him too. Part of me says that I should keep him over Pavelski.


But the real question is, do I trade Matthews, Marner, and Werenski for McDavid? That would solve the logjam of players I guess, and would make my keeper list be McDavid, Crosby, Pavelski, Panarin, Ehlers, Kucherov, Laine, Karlsson, Ristolainen, and Murray.

Either way, I'll need to make a move of some sort. I just get the feeling that Marner is on the verge of stardom and this is too much to give up, even if I am getting McDavid in return. I'm struggling to figure out who to let go of and who to keep, but I know Marner is squarely on my keeper list and I'm extremely hesitant to trade him, particularly in a package deal with other star talent like Matthews.

[Pengwin7]

For me, yes - you make the trade.

Let's do the real deal, which is a 4-for-4.

Matthews/Marner/Werenksi/D-redrafted
for
McDavid/F-redraft/Ristolainen/Provorov


I see McDavid as a 100pt player, 10/10 for +/- going forward, 10/10 for PPP going forward.
I see Matthews as a 90pt player, 9/10 for +/- going forward, 9/10 for PPP going forward.

What I really love for you is that you have SIX categories and TWO are HIT/BLK.
You have two young/rising HIT/BLK machines that you SHOULD keep: Ristolainen and Provorov.
And now you have this trade offer where you get to keep them and upgrade Matthews into McDavid.

Marner is a nice player... but he doesn't HIT.
Werenksi is a nice player... but HE doesn't HIT... and his BLK aren't great either.


This is an ACCEPT NOW type of trade with your categories.
And also... its going to be much easier to draft/claim a waiver wire forward... then it will be to find a 6-category D-man like Risto/Provorov.

[LawMan]

For me, yes - you make the trade.

Let's do the real deal, which is a 4-for-4.

Matthews/Marner/Werenksi/D-redrafted
for
McDavid/F-redraft/Ristolainen/Provorov


I see McDavid as a 100pt player, 10/10 for +/- going forward, 10/10 for PPP going forward.
I see Matthews as a 90pt player, 9/10 for +/- going forward, 9/10 for PPP going forward.

What I really love for you is that you have SIX categories and TWO are HIT/BLK.
You have two young/rising HIT/BLK machines that you SHOULD keep: Ristolainen and Provorov.
And now you have this trade offer where you get to keep them and upgrade Matthews into McDavid.

Marner is a nice player... but he doesn't HIT.
Werenksi is a nice player... but HE doesn't HIT... and his BLK aren't great either.


This is an ACCEPT NOW type of trade with your categories.
And also... its going to be much easier to draft/claim a waiver wire forward... then it will be to find a 6-category D-man like Risto/Provorov.

Agree with all of this. With Werenski not on your keeper list it's giving up 2 players for 1, and since you can add a new 10th keeper its a 2-for-2 situation.
Or, more accurately, as Pengwin describes, its a 4-for-4 situation.

I'd make the deal.

[PrairieDog]

Hell yeah I take that, you have guys you would be dropping otherwise that more than make up for the extra players you are moving out. I would get this done asap.

[SergeP]

Easy accept. Only a leafs homer would turn this down

[MZac]

As stated I make the trade as well.

[pmorrow]

Yes I would go with that. It's a lot but it is not too much for McDavid in a limited keeper. Take one small step "back" to take take three big ones forward.

[Axeman33]

For me, yes - you make the trade.

Let's do the real deal, which is a 4-for-4.

Matthews/Marner/Werenksi/D-redrafted
for
McDavid/F-redraft/Ristolainen/Provorov


I see McDavid as a 100pt player, 10/10 for +/- going forward, 10/10 for PPP going forward.
I see Matthews as a 90pt player, 9/10 for +/- going forward, 9/10 for PPP going forward.

What I really love for you is that you have SIX categories and TWO are HIT/BLK.
You have two young/rising HIT/BLK machines that you SHOULD keep: Ristolainen and Provorov.
And now you have this trade offer where you get to keep them and upgrade Matthews into McDavid.

Marner is a nice player... but he doesn't HIT.
Werenksi is a nice player... but HE doesn't HIT... and his BLK aren't great either.


This is an ACCEPT NOW type of trade with your categories.
And also... its going to be much easier to draft/claim a waiver wire forward... then it will be to find a 6-category D-man like Risto/Provorov.

Well said and I concur.

[Moses]

I concur with the group...

Especially with those CATS, in that league structure with your depth.

[foltzie]

Seems like an easy decision to me. Werenski isn't even a keeper for you, so it's Marner and Matthews for McDavid and Risto(I'd be tempted to keep Guentzel but maybe RR is the better choice in your league). I think you are the clear winner in that deal.

[DudeImJason]

considering in the end you really only move Matthews/Marner for McDavid I take that deal anyday, I figure as Marner/Nylander further develop offensively Matthews moves more to the 2-way C he was projected to be so offense may take a hit, I don't see many more 40 goal seasons, consistent 30-35 tho

[J0e Th0rnton]

Smash accept

[Vancityguy]

Agreed, accept. If it was a full dynasty with deep roster I would not but in a limited keeper this is a slam dunk.