Jonathan Drouin for a BUNDLE... Help!

[Hank n Dank]

• Salary Cap league, but they're all on low rookie contract so that is a non-factor

• Points league, where scoring is:

• Goal = 4pts

• Assist = 2pts

• HIT and SOG = 0.25pts

• Plus/Minus = + 1 point or - 1 point

• PIM = -0.1 point per PIM

Team A Gets:
Jonathan Drouin

Team B Gets:
Mathew Barzal
Lawson Crouse
Arturri Lehkonen

• What team wins in your opinion (and why if you have time)

• Is Drouin considered the best player in this deal still despite production (or lack of) so far this year?

• Any other thoughts regarding Barzal, Course, Lehkonen are welcome!

[Axeman33]

I wouldnt take that for Drouin.

Barzal is the best player coming your way and isn't nearly as good as Drouin. Crouse is a 3rd liner at best and Lehkonen is a question mark himself.

PS - you dont need to make duplicate posts. It will get seen.

[FinnishFlash]

That's a pretty lackluster bundle for Drouin.

I really like Barzal, but I think he's 2 years away from substantial impact (assuming NYI doesn't torpedo his development)

[Nehithaw]

Team A wins because of the next question. Barzal should be pretty good, but that is not a given yet. He is a playmaker, so his stats will be assist-heavy if everything goes according to plan.

Drouin is the best player in the deal.

The winner of a trade is usually the GM getting the best player. To be fair, it is a decent package but will it will pale in comparison to Drouin's numbers when he does get hot. If you add the total stats of what those three players could get once they play in the NHL it might appear that they are more valuable but you have to take into consideration the other two players that you could pick up as free agents.

[Hank n Dank]

I wouldnt take that for Drouin.

Barzal is the best player coming your way and isn't nearly as good as Drouin. Crouse is a 3rd liner at best and Lehkonen is a question mark himself.

PS - you dont need to make duplicate posts. It will get seen.

Thanks for the quick input Axeman.

I never specified who was giving up/getting Drouin - I like to keep sides out of it to begin (not that anyone in here knows me probably haha).

What it really comes down to is Drouin is playing this year (albeit on the 3rd line) while Barzal is not, and Crouse pretty much is not either with the minutes he's getting. Lehkonen was doing okay before the injury but hasn't really done a lot since returning and isn't in the top-6 like before the injury.

And I don't think it lets me post the same thread, looks like it got taken down. Makes sense. I haven't posted on here for over a year, not sure of the 'rules' anymore!

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That's a pretty lackluster bundle for Drouin.

I really like Barzal, but I think he's 2 years away from substantial impact (assuming NYI doesn't torpedo his development)

Thanks for the reply,

Yeah - I mean, after the playoffs last year, heading into this season Drouin's value and expectations were pretty high. It's not like he's lit it up this year though.

And I agree on Barzal and NYI... Look no further than Ryan Strome...

[Axeman33]

Thanks for the quick input Axeman.

I never specified who was giving up/getting Drouin - I like to keep sides out of it to begin (not that anyone in here knows me probably haha).

What it really comes down to is Drouin is playing this year (albeit on the 3rd line) while Barzal is not, and Crouse pretty much is not either with the minutes he's getting. Lehkonen was doing okay before the injury but hasn't really done a lot since returning and isn't in the top-6 like before the injury.

And I don't think it lets me post the same thread, looks like it got taken down. Makes sense. I haven't posted on here for over a year, not sure of the 'rules' anymore!

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Thanks for the reply,

Yeah - I mean, after the playoffs last year, heading into this season Drouin's value and expectations were pretty high. It's not like he's lit it up this year though.

And I agree on Barzal and NYI... Look no further than Ryan Strome...

I deleted the duplicate posts. You only need to make one.

[Hank n Dank]

Team A wins because of the next question. Barzal should be pretty good, but that is not a given yet. He is a playmaker, so his stats will be assist-heavy if everything goes according to plan.

Drouin is the best player in the deal.

The winner of a trade is usually the GM getting the best player. To be fair, it is a decent package but will it will pale in comparison to Drouin's numbers when he does get hot. If you add the total stats of what those three players could get once they play in the NHL it might appear that they are more valuable but you have to take into consideration the other two players that you could pick up as free agents.

Thank you for the reply,

I agree, Barzal hasn't shown it in his limited NHL time. Pretty highly touted though.

I suppose down the road it will be Drouin plus 2 mid-round draftees for the 3 players. This season roster-wise it is basically Drouin for Lehkonen since Barzal isn't playing and Crouse is getting 10mins or less per game on the 4th line and is on the 'minor league roster'

[Hank n Dank]

I deleted the duplicate posts. You only need to make one.

Oh okay. Thanks - you're on top of things in here, I love it!

My mistake - I realize it's annoying to see the same thread multiple times.

[hockeymanG23]

Easy, I'd want the Drouin side

[Sulla]

I'm not the biggest Drouin fan but even I prefer him here

[Hank n Dank]

Thanks for the replies...

Maybe I'm higher on Barzal than most, being from BC.

Also maybe I'm lower on Drouin due to his antics last year and slow start...

I suppose what Drouin has going for him is that eventually Tampa will have to trade or lose some of the offensive talent due to cap reasons, and he's still on a cheap contract here this year and probably won't command a huge contract for his next one. Probably one of those "bridge" deals similar maybe to a Galchenyuk? Unless Tampa believes in him a ton and gives him a longer term deal maybe around $5m per hoping that the deal will be a bargain a couple years into it...

I do agree though that prospects, especially Barzal because in NYI and Crouse (look at his minutes) will take a while to become fantasy relevant.
It's not like Drouin is tearing it up though...

[stevegamer]

It's a bundle, but not a super enticing bundle. Barzal on any other team would be much more interesting.

[roenick27]

I'm not the biggest drouin guy either, but to make this deal, I think it needs to be say barzal+ crouse + a guy like drouin (at least somewhat established -already with a season or so under his belt so you at least have some "security" in the deal). I'm not sure who that guy could/would be, but maybe (since he was mentioned above) r strome type? Someone that has the potential to be a star but has not quite gotten there yet.
As axeman said before, crouse likely will be a role player type that can fill in on a scoring line (could be decent in your format with more points for goals and some for hits etc) and barz should become a top 6 player, but neither of them have drouin a upside. So I think you need someone coming back that is close to drouin as far as upside to make it close