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    No it's not. But then again Bergevin is absolutely crazy if he trades Subban before signing Stamkos...
    I agree. A lot could go wrong if that's the plan.


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    No it's not. But then again Bergevin is absolutely crazy if he trades Subban before signing Stamkos...
    Trouble there is PK's NMC kicks in on the 1st. Unless Bergevin can get Stamkos' rights from Yzerman, he's stuck. I think that's why the rumours are there with PK right now, this is the last chance for him to be moved.
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    Default Re: [Rumor] PK Subban to Oilers for Draisaitl and 4th overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Ingolo View Post
    Trouble there is PK's NMC kicks in on the 1st. Unless Bergevin can get Stamkos' rights from Yzerman, he's stuck. I think that's why the rumours are there with PK right now, this is the last chance for him to be moved.
    Yeah but if he moves PK and fails to sign Stamkos. He basically destroyed his Cup window since he traded his franchise D without replacing him. Might as well trade Price and Pacioretty and rebuild if he's to do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    No arguing from this side of the keyboard about that, but is Subban > Stamkos, Dubois and Draisaitl? That's probably what Bergevin is looking at (again, simply an assumption on my part).
    When I hear the Subban rumors, this is where my thought goes to that freeing the cap space is looking towards a run at Stammer. But you also have to remember, the Habs are going to have to pay Carey Price soon and Draisaitl will require a new contract as well in 2 years (I know other contracts will be off the books etc, just looking down the road). But I do believe that Stammer is in his mind when it comes to a deal like this.

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    Yeah but if he moves PK and fails to sign Stamkos. He basically destroyed his Cup window since he traded his franchise D without replacing him. Might as well trade Price and Pacioretty and rebuild if he's to do that.
    Absolutely. Montreal is a team that seems on the cusp of sustained playoff success, but they're weak up the middle, and don't have great depth. If Bergevin could pull off a masterstroke of clearing cap space by trading PK, signing Stammer, and getting Draisatl and picks, I think they'd be a better team for it; but that's a whole lot of moving parts with no guarantees.
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    As a die-hard Mtl fan, the only way I see the Habs winning this deal is if Stamkos is a guaranteed sign for them. No reason in freeing up cap space if you aren't going to use it on another elite player (and no Hamuis and Eriksson are not the answer)!
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    I though the idea was to have Stammer join his BFF in Montreal!
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    Default Re: [Rumor] PK Subban to Oilers for Draisaitl and 4th overall

    Quote Originally Posted by yougo View Post
    I don't understand how anyone can think this is a good trade for Montreal....
    They loose a top5 D in the NHL. They gain a lottery ticket (#4 overall) and a young player who isn't much better than Galchenyuk

    It's a big big no for me if I'm Montreal. Not.Even.Close.
    Exactly. Top dman are so hard to get, I don't see how two unknown/unproven pieces could get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rufio.85 View Post
    Exactly. Top dman are so hard to get, I don't see how two unknown/unproven pieces could get it done.
    I wouldn't call Draisaitl either unknown or unproven.


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    Anyone remember that McDonough for Gomez swap back in 2011?? Habs can't afford to make dumb moves like that again - albeit that was under much dumber management.....that one set them back some...
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    Default Re: [Rumor] PK Subban to Oilers for Draisaitl and 4th overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Instant Karma View Post
    I wouldn't call Draisaitl either unknown or unproven.
    Half a season of production qualifies as unproven for me, even if he has great upside. Talented, bit we still don't know how exactly he's gonna pan out. If I trade Subban, I want more reassurance than that, but maybe it's just me.

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    One has to wonder how close this came to fruition. I am sure the Habs, as much as they would kick themselves for dealing PK, would be pretty damn happy with Draisaitl and Puljujarvi too.

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    Default Re: [Rumor] PK Subban to Oilers for Draisaitl and 4th overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    One has to wonder how close this came to fruition. I am sure the Habs, as much as they would kick themselves for dealing PK, would be pretty damn happy with Draisaitl and Puljujarvi too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    One has to wonder how close this came to fruition. I am sure the Habs, as much as they would kick themselves for dealing PK, would be pretty damn happy with Draisaitl and Puljujarvi too.

    Oh what might have been.
    Wonder if it fell apart as soon as Columbus took Dubois. Edmonton probably didn't want to pass on Pulju.
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    Default Re: [Rumor] PK Subban to Oilers for Draisaitl and 4th overall

    Quote Originally Posted by Fast Tony DeNiro View Post
    Wonder if it fell apart as soon as Columbus took Dubois. Edmonton probably didn't want to pass on Pulju.
    I'm surprised Chiarelli didn't break into a sprint to get to the podium to take Puljujarvi.
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