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    Default Re: [RUMOR/IMAGINED] - Matthews to ARI, OEL to TOR

    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    June 24th - Second Domino falls... "With the 1st pick in the 2016 NHL Entry Draft, the Toronto Maple Leafs select... Auston Matthews." (by the way... where do they announce Auston to be from... ZSC Lions? or USDP?)
    Has there ever been a 1st over all pick hailing form the ZSC Lions? That's pretty big.

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    I think all the dominos fall over and the Leafs select A.Matthews.. A #1 center that can grow with Nylander and Marner..

    I still don't understand why Stamkos would want to join a team that is rebuilding for another 5 years or so??

    I don't really see too many, meaning no, teams offering up a 1st round pick for Jake Gardiner..

    This team is also in serious need of a goalie..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zorro View Post
    This team is also in serious need of a goalie..
    That's the last thing we need... we're in serious need of a couple more top picks over the next two years.

    When we're ready to compete... that's when we'll need a goalie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Oh I’m not saying it’s a fair trade. But if Yotes want Matthews they will have to overpay and by a lot.

    OEL + 7th, and maybe like a 2/3 round pick next yr for 1st overall is “fair” to the point where Toronto isn’t in any need to trade the pick, so they’ll take it. But adding Domi makes it a trade where Toronto can’t/won’t say no to.

    Toronto isn’t selling, Yotes are buying. Thus sellers’ market.
    Yotes are buying? This is pure speculation.

    The Leafs will need an overpayment to move the 1st overall pick. The Yotes will need an overpayment to move OEL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    Yotes are buying? This is pure speculation.

    The Leafs will need an overpayment to move the 1st overall pick. The Yotes will need an overpayment to move OEL.
    It was meant that Toronto wouldn’t be going to Yotes and say what do you want for the 1st overall. If a trade would to happen, it would be the Yotes approaching Toronto. Thus Yotes Buying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blayze View Post
    That's the last thing we need... we're in serious need of a couple more top picks over the next two years.

    When we're ready to compete... that's when we'll need a goalie.
    No THE leafs need to draft an goalie with the capability to be a long term starter in the NHL and then let him build with this core to that when the core reaches their prime, he is coming into his own. You can't expect to develop a core of forwards and D with no goaltending support and that the team is just going to have one fall into their lap through trade or FA.

    Also these Matt Murray to the Leafs rumors now due to "potential expansion" are already getting old. Leafs lose some of their young core if they want a goalie of that magnitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendelicious View Post
    No THE leafs need to draft an goalie with the capability to be a long term starter in the NHL and then let him build with this core to that when the core reaches their prime, he is coming into his own. You can't expect to develop a core of forwards and D with no goaltending support and that the team is just going to have one fall into their lap through trade or FA.

    Also these Matt Murray to the Leafs rumors now due to "potential expansion" are already getting old. Leafs lose some of their young core if they want a goalie of that magnitude.
    If anything, Fleury is the goalie the Penguins would trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    If anything, Fleury is the goalie the Penguins would trade.
    If Murray plays solidly next year absolutely they'll look to move Fleury (I'd move Fleury anyways). I'm just going off of rumors I heard the last couple of days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    If anything, Fleury is the goalie the Penguins would trade.
    I don't think a 31 year old Fleury would be the solution for a rebuilding team like the Leafs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikoi View Post
    I don't think a 31 year old Fleury would be the solution for a rebuilding team like the Leafs.
    The Florida Panthers would probably disagree with you. They didn't seem to mind bringing in Luongo to help with their rebuild and he was well past 31 years of age when he went there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dikoi View Post
    I don't think a 31 year old Fleury would be the solution for a rebuilding team like the Leafs.
    If they draft a goalie this yr, an elder goalie may be what they need.

    The last consistent goalies the Leafs had: Belfour, Cujo, Giguere, Potvin, and Fuhr. The pressure may be too much for younger goalies. They get a vet to backstop till the rookie comes in and takes over.

    However I really think goalie is the thing you “address last”. By this I mean, get a goalie you think could be your future, but don’t fully fret on things. Star goalies can come from out of nowhere in the 5th round. Matt Murray, 21yrs old, 83rd overall pick, the next starting goalie for the penguins for yrs. Holtby, 93rd overall, arguably top 3 goalie in the league. Lundy 205th overall.

    The development timeline typically from fastest to longest is Forward, D, Goalie. So you don’t want to leave goalie out of it until it’s too late, but goalie is the biggest hit and miss positon where you could be banking on Bernier (1st rounder) to be your next goalie, but Sparks a 7th rounder could take it. It’s quite a crap shoot.

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    I agree. Leafs can get a solid goalie without needing to pay too much.

    Goalies should be fairly cheaply available next trade deadline too.. if the expansion rules only allow many teams to keep one veteran goalie.
    A couple teams in the NHL... DET (Mrazek) and STL (Allen) should be looking towards their futures.
    This may free up Howard (DET) and Elliott (STL).
    I also wouldn't be shocked to see COL give Calvin Pickard a shot... making Varly available.

    All of Mrazek, Allen, and Pickard are RFAs this summer.

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    Default Re: [RUMOR/IMAGINED] - Matthews to ARI, OEL to TOR

    Quote Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour View Post
    huh?
    wow, remind me to ignore all your trade offers if we ever end up in the same league.

    Are you one of those guys who offers two 60 point players for one 90 point player and then says it must be a good offer cuz you're giving up 120 total points?


    Also, maybe he was nuts at the time... but it was reported by multiple sources not too long ago that Snow offered his entire draft (including #4 overall) to move up 2 spots.
    And was TURNED DOWN.
    Just one example but I believe moving up 7 to 1, especially this year, would cost a fortune. Way more than just Domi, and I love Domi.
    No i'm a guy who doesnt confuse fantasy with reality.
    Im not saying the leafs should make that move just suggesting something more reasonable then the leafs getting OEL, #7 and an additional 1st
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    Anyone thinking the Coyotes would have to ADD to OEL to get Matthews is straight up delusional and insane.

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