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    Default Re: [Rumor] Jimmy Vesey to go UFA, then sign with Leafs?

    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    I think he goes to FA. It's a pretty bad loophole in the rules but if he has the chance to choose his destination why not take advantage?
    Can you explain to me what this "loophole" is in the NHL rules that everyone keeps talking about?

    There is no loophole, every single player drafted has the option to not sign an NHL contract for 4 years to become a UFA. For some draftees, they only have to wait 2 years before becoming a UFA. For example, Erik Gustafsson of the Blackhawks. He was drafted by the Oilers in June 2012, didn't sign a contract so he was a UFA as of June 1st, 2014. He signed with the Blackhawks in April 2015. Vesey was drafted in 2012. Every single person who was drafted in 2012 either has a NHL contract or could be an unrestricted free agent at some point this summer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I dont know what thread you are reading but there is no one arguing with Big Ev in this thread. Not even close. In fact, no one is arguing with anyone.
    This is arguewithbigev.com right?

    any second now this thread will turn into..........

    "Vesey is Obviously signing with Ottawa"

    the end

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    I’m pretty sure an NCAA player can’t sign a contract when on an NCAA team. Has to be during the offseason. Remember the big talk about if Eichel would go back to Boston before he signed his ELC? So there’s prolly a thing where you can’t hold an NHL ELC and play in the NCAA.

    So Vesey wanted to finished college, that was a big deal for him. So obviously he wasn’t going to sign last yr, or the yr before. And don’t the Preds own his rights for 30 days after the NCAA season is done? So if they don’t sign him they can still trade him for a pick.

    If he’s being offered the max deal, and the Preds have said he’d be playing in the playoffs for sure, he obviously doesn’t want to go there. So when his season is done, he’ll sign pretty quickly with someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnScott AllStarMVP View Post
    This is arguewithbigev.com right?

    any second now this thread will turn into..........

    "Vesey is Obviously signing with Ottawa"

    the end
    It would appear that you are the only one trying to turn this thread into that which I find strange considering you are the only one complaining about it too. No need to derail this thread. It's a good read.
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    I may be wrong, but I thought I heard that Tennessee doesn't have a state income tax, correct? If so, getting the max deal from the Preds would be the best he is going to get (bonuses aside and I'm sure the Preds would have bonuses worked in). That aside, I figure that with Harvard now finished, he'll sign with the Preds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendelicious View Post
    I may be wrong, but I thought I heard that Tennessee doesn't have a state income tax, correct? If so, getting the max deal from the Preds would be the best he is going to get (bonuses aside and I'm sure the Preds would have bonuses worked in). That aside, I figure that with Harvard now finished, he'll sign with the Preds.
    There’s tax, but the difference between Toronto and Nashville (on a $975,000 contract, which I think is close to the max ELC), is about $150k. Nashville is 35.10% taxed, Toronto is 50.05%. According to this site http://gavingroup.ca/personal-income...in-nhl-cities/
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    There’s tax, but the difference between Toronto and Nashville (on a $975,000 contract, which I think is close to the max ELC), is about $150k. Nashville is 35.10% taxed, Toronto is 50.05%. According to this site http://gavingroup.ca/personal-income...in-nhl-cities/
    Very handy site...so I guess what they were moreso getting at was NSH is essentially in the lowest tax bracket in the NHL (with DAL, FLA & TB)...I recalled hearing this info on ESPN when talking about other players so some of the info was misconstrued I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goldendelicious View Post
    Very handy site...so I guess what they were moreso getting at was NSH is essentially in the lowest tax bracket in the NHL (with DAL, FLA & TB)...I recalled hearing this info on ESPN when talking about other players so some of the info was misconstrued I suppose.
    They may not have a state tax, but they still are taxed. It’s not like their take home pay equals their salary. Maybe that’s what they were talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    It would appear that you are the only one trying to turn this thread into that which I find strange considering you are the only one complaining about it too. No need to derail this thread. It's a good read.
    Vesey isn't signing in Nash though

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    So when his season is done, he’ll sign pretty quickly with someone.
    His season ended on Friday. He could have joined Nashville and have played in their game on Saturday.

    All they've done is send out a release saying they hope to meet him in the next several days to sign him. That's not as confident as they'd like to be.
    He'll be a UFA August 15, my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Guru View Post
    His season ended on Friday. He could have joined Nashville and have played in their game on Saturday.



    He'll be a UFA August 15, my opinion.
    They hold his rights for 30 days after his season ends, then he’s a FA isn’t he? So 30 days from 26th, April 26th he’s a FA?
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    Oh right, the 30 days thing I’m thinking of is like in the case of Justin Schultz. He was drafted out of the BCHL (minor league), then went to college after being drafted. Whole different scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Oh right, the 30 days thing I’m thinking of is like in the case of Justin Schultz. He was drafted out of the BCHL (minor league), then went to college after being drafted. Whole different scenario.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnScott AllStarMVP View Post
    Vesey isn't signing in Nash though
    Did you make an alias account just to troll Ev? Thats sad

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