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    Default Re: [Rumor] Jimmy Vesey to go UFA, then sign with Leafs?

    Jimmy Vesey, Harvard degree, over 300 NHL games played, and millions of dollars earned. What a bum

    Quote Originally Posted by butch View Post
    I dont get why this available loophole continues on .
    Because it's not a loophole, it applies to over 95% of players drafted (players drafted out of the Russian Hockey Federation being the only exception now.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    Jimmy Vesey, Harvard degree, over 300 NHL games played, and millions of dollars earned. What a bum



    Because it's not a loophole, it applies to over 95% of players drafted (players drafted out of the Russian Hockey Federation being the only exception now.)
    so.....not overhyped even a tad ?

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    Default Re: [Rumor] Jimmy Vesey to go UFA, then sign with Leafs?

    Success stories to players not going the traditional route to the NHL through college:
    Hyman, Fox, Schultz, Hayes, Mike Reilly, Bozak, Krug, DeKeyser


    Also, being waived this yr doesn't mean as much as previous yrs.

    I think more kids should be going untraditional routes to the NHL. I loved the Matthews decision, he went and had a life experience, made money and played hockey and didn't hurt his draft slot. Players going to college is a great route because they actually get an education in the process. Not all roads lead to the NHL, so players going to college at least get something out of it instead of being undrafted with no education. Teams have so much power over a player for like 5-8yrs, I like when a player goes against the grain in a legal fashion. More power to these guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by butch View Post
    so.....not overhyped even a tad ?
    Being the top player in a class that yr always gets you overhyped. Like a bad draft.
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    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
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    Quote Originally Posted by butch View Post
    so.....not overhyped even a tad ?
    I said no such thing, definitely over-hyped. Whatever the opposite of a tad is.

    The constant hate on the 'Vesey-loophole' is continually ridiculous though. 1 - there is no loophole 2 - Kevin Hayes is a MUCH better example anyway 3 - considering Nashville track record with developing prospects over the past decade it's hard not to fault any Nashville prospect for bypassing an organisation they owe nothing to and 4 - think of multi-million dollar NHL organisations as 'Goliaths,' Vesey and your average NHL fan would be 'Davids' it's absurd the amount of fans who argue that Goliath should be able to wield a David-size club and shield but it's unfair for David to have a sling and a few rocks.

    You nailed it with "the media certainly doesnt help the situation , especially in canada regarding unsigned college ufa route fellas." There's not much to talk about hockey-wise mid-August so a bigger deal is made of the 'Chase Priskies' of the hockey world than evcer should.



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    Also didn't Wheeler refuse to sign with Boston?
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Also didn't Wheeler refuse to sign with Boston?
    Phoenix but I think he played in the USHL post-draft so he didn't even need to complete this college career like Vesey did. I could have a detail off there.

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    Lots of players go this route. John Marino was another who refused to sign with EDM so they dealt him and got something for him at least instead of watching him walk for nothing. I personally hate this rule. Teams should be compensated if drafted players refuse to sign with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis View Post
    I said no such thing, definitely over-hyped. Whatever the opposite of a tad is.

    The constant hate on the 'Vesey-loophole' is continually ridiculous though. 1 - there is no loophole 2 - Kevin Hayes is a MUCH better example anyway 3 - considering Nashville track record with developing prospects over the past decade it's hard not to fault any Nashville prospect for bypassing an organisation they owe nothing to and 4 - think of multi-million dollar NHL organisations as 'Goliaths,' Vesey and your average NHL fan would be 'Davids' it's absurd the amount of fans who argue that Goliath should be able to wield a David-size club and shield but it's unfair for David to have a sling and a few rocks.

    You nailed it with "the media certainly doesnt help the situation , especially in canada regarding unsigned college ufa route fellas." There's not much to talk about hockey-wise mid-August so a bigger deal is made of the 'Chase Priskies' of the hockey world than evcer should.


    This is correct.

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    Claimed by Vancouver today off waivers
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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

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    I get that Vancouver did this because if recent injuries, but why this guy? Urgh.

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