[rumour] Stamkos and the Flames trade rumours

[Pengwin7]

And I don't see a reason to Stammer to want out. He's on a contender, young team with a lot of space to get better.

You should take a look at the number of very solid young players that will be due new contracts soon.
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TBL?year=2016
And don't forget Hedman who will be approaching a UFA contract in summer of 2017! (HUGE $$$$$$)

None of us know Stamkos, personally.
For all we know - it may be his life-long dream to be the heart & soul of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
I can name at least one Toronto team that Stammer really loves...
https://twitter.com/RealStamkos91
Perhaps there is two.

[Mr. Guru]

Why the hell would Toronto trade for him when they are just going to get him for free on July 1?

To offer one more year?? lol!

Would you get rid of top prospects and valuable assets to offer Stamkos 8 years instead of 7? The answer is no.

[Big Ev]

Why the hell would Toronto trade for him when they are just going to get him for free on July 1?

To offer one more year?? lol!

Would you get rid of top prospects and valuable assets to offer Stamkos 8 years instead of 7? The answer is no.

Leafs don't have valuable assets, so it doesn't matter

[Rato]

You should take a look at the number of very solid young players that will be due new contracts soon.
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TBL?year=2016
And don't forget Hedman who will be approaching a UFA contract in summer of 2017! (HUGE $$$$$$)

I don't know Stevie Y personally as well, but I don't believe he'll trade Stamkos to keep Kucherov or Palat. I doubt they can keep all the young studs they currently hold, but I believe they can keep the majority with good cap management, which means they'll probably trade Bishop and some veteran d-man as they have propects with enough talent (Koekkoek, DeAngelo) to fill the void. At least this is what makes sense in my head.

[roenick27]

You should take a look at the number of very solid young players that will be due new contracts soon.
http://stats.nhlnumbers.com/teams/TBL?year=2016
And don't forget Hedman who will be approaching a UFA contract in summer of 2017! (HUGE $$$$$$)

None of us know Stamkos, personally.
For all we know - it may be his life-long dream to be the heart & soul of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
I can name at least one Toronto team that Stammer really loves...
https://twitter.com/RealStamkos91
Perhaps there is two.

Pengwin's Point is dead on other than the fact that he didn't go too far into depth for 2017. 2017 not only has Hedman, but due for contracts would be : TyJo, Palat, Drouin, Bishop, Vasi . On top of that, you would still need Hedman + at least a few more D-men (we all see what your standard d-men are getting.

I don't see how they can keep him, unless they are willing to lose most of their core to do so.

[Rato]

I don't see how they can keep him, unless they are willing to lose most of their core to do so.

Isn't this the equivalent of trading Toews to keep Ladd, Byfuglien and Brian Campbell? Just saying.

[Big Ev]

the thing is, he probably isn't worth what he's going to get so the Lightning will have to make a decision.

[Mr. Guru]

Leafs don't have valuable assets, so it doesn't matter

Why are you saying this? What's wrong with you today?

Of course the Leafs have valuable assets. Every team does. Is this one of those trolling days your into?

Now you'll usually respond with the "Im not trolling just speaking the truth".

[roenick27]

Isn't this the equivalent of trading Toews to keep Ladd, Byfuglien and Brian Campbell? Just saying.

I think it's worse than that...
It could be looked at as
Stammer (say 10 Million) + Blank (3 Million) + Blank (3 Million)
vs
Bishop(7 Million), Kucherov/Johnson (7 Million), Drouin (2 Million) (I know Drouin is a bit low...but we don't know what those blanks are) or some other combination similar to that.
Stammer is a beast, but is he really a ton better than either Kucherov or Johnson? Then possibly losing a decent starter in Bishop + another future centerpiece in Drouin?

Either way, it is a decision that I think they need to address one way or the other asap..Otherwise they are backed into a corner.
The other difference is Toews has 3 cups.

[rtstr]

the thing is, he probably isn't worth what he's going to get so the Lightning will have to make a decision.

What makes you say that? Stamkos is a top 10 forward in the NHL and will be paid as such.

[distantyeti58]

Isn't this the equivalent of trading Toews to keep Ladd, Byfuglien and Brian Campbell? Just saying.

major differences with tampa to chicago:

CHI had ladd + buff + campbell as complimentary peices, kucherov + palat + TyJo +hedman + drouin are all core peices

[STONE.]

major differences with tampa to chicago:

CHI had ladd + buff + campbell as complimentary peices, kucherov + palat + TyJo +hedman + drouin are all core peices

So you're saying it's like trading Saad to keep Toews, Kane, and Keith?

Hmmm....

[roenick27]

Screw it. Calgary wants to make deals.
What about a hockey trade...

Stammer + Bishop
for
Monahan/Bennett + Hiller + Dougie + Ferland/Pick
Thoughts?

I figure:
1) This solves Calgary's Net questions and Hiller could back up Vasi as early as next year (and clears his path)
2) Calgary has a lot on the back end and Dougie hasn't meshed yet. Tampa could use the D help IMO and building around Dougie + Hedman could be sweet..
3) Calgary gets the horse they want in Stammer(Obviously some type of deal would need to be agreed upon/in place). Tampa makes a deal at a good value and gets a younger, lower ceiling star type back + a grinder in Ferland/ Pick etc..

[rangerfan2430]

Screw it. Calgary wants to make deals.
What about a hockey trade...

Stammer + Bishop
for
Monahan/Bennett + Hiller + Dougie + Ferland/Pick
Thoughts?

I figure:
1) This solves Calgary's Net questions and Hiller could back up Vasi as early as next year (and clears his path)
2) Calgary has a lot on the back end and Dougie hasn't meshed yet. Tampa could use the D help IMO and building around Dougie + Hedman could be sweet..
3) Calgary gets the horse they want in Stammer(Obviously some type of deal would need to be agreed upon/in place). Tampa makes a deal at a good value and gets a younger, lower ceiling star type back + a grinder in Ferland/ Pick etc..

That's a very interesting proposal. Calagry might have to give up a little more like a 1st round pick but I could see that working for both teams

[Big Ev]

What makes you say that? Stamkos is a top 10 forward in the NHL and will be paid as such.

Depends what he is asking for. Should he get 12 million? He is a goal scoring 70 point forward who was second fiddle in the playoffs.

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Why are you saying this? What's wrong with you today?

Of course the Leafs have valuable assets. Every team does. Is this one of those trolling days your into?

Now you'll usually respond with the "Im not trolling just speaking the truth".

This is gold coming from yourself...Mr. Fluff.