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    Wow - they really need to go above and beyond to show that they are above reproach going forward. Image desperately needs cleaning...


    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/a5609...ut-down-nevada


    Draft Kings and Fan Duel need to avoid applying for a gambling license and stick to their guns that they are not a gambling game (right or wrong). As soon as they apply, then ALL the States will call them gambling and some will ban it as a result. Huge repercussions still being felt thanks to that one idiot who won $350,000 with his insider knowledge. One man will cost these companies billions in the long run...


    LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada regulators ordered daily fantasy sports sites like DraftKings and FanDuel to shut down Thursday, saying the hard-to-miss sites that have flooded the marketplace with TV and Internet ads cannot operate in the state without a gambling license.

    The decision comes amid growing backlash by regulators and investigators, including New York's attorney general, after it was revealed employees often played on competing sites, raising questions about possible insider information being used to win.

    Nevada regulators govern the country's main gambling hub in Las Vegas, and their actions could hold sway with regulators elsewhere.

    Participants on the unregulated sites can compete in games involving professional or college sports, paying an entry fee that goes into a larger pool. They try to assemble teams that earn the most points based on real-life stats in a given period with a certain percentage of top finishers earning a payout.

    Entry fees on DraftKings range from 25 cents to more than $5,000. Some prizes top $1 million.

    Nevada's decision doesn't affect season-long fantasy sports, long-popular online and in office pools. Daily fantasy sports is similar, but with the contests limited to a day in most cases, not stretched out over a season.

    DraftKings and FanDuel say the sites provide games of skill and not chance and are therefore protected by the 2006 Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, which carved out a specific exemption allowing fantasy sports.

    The distinction has been an important one for the industry, which has dodged the type of regulation that governs traditional casinos and sports books. Avoiding being labeled "gambling" also has made the contests palatable to professional sports leagues that have partnered with the sites or, in some cases, invested directly.

    Until now, the sites have been available in all but five states where their legality has been called into question.

    "If you're licensed in Nevada, you're good to go," said A.G. Burnett, chief of the state's Gaming Control Board. That includes traditional sports books where gamblers generally wager on the outcome of a given game.

    No daily fantasy sports sites are licensed in Nevada, but the sites can apply for licenses.

    A notice issued by the Gaming Control Board said the sites must stop offering their contests to Nevada residents immediately, and until they are granted a license. Operators face felony fines and 10 years in prison for running an illegal gambling site. The board said it worked with the state attorney general's office for several months to look into the sites' legality.

    Joe Asher, CEO of sports book William Hill's U.S. operations, has repeatedly said daily fantasy sports is gambling and should be treated like all other legal gambling operations. He said the board's decision speaks for itself.

    "It shouldn't come as a surprise," Asher said.

    Spokesmen for DraftKings and FanDuel did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

    Seth Young, chief operating officer of the much smaller site StarFantasy, said he took it a step further than most, commissioning the same lab that tests casino slot machines to determine if the site's games were skill-based. Young said the tests confirmed it, but "it doesn't mean we can disrespect state laws." He noted his company pulled out of 10 states before Thursday, to stay on the right side of the law. His site pulled the plug in Nevada, too.

    "We saw regulation on the horizon," he said. He said the company plans to get licensed in Nevada and hopes to license its own technology to other companies wanting to do business there.

    The American Gaming Association, which is doing its own review of the legality of daily fantasy sports, said it appreciated the Nevada board's determination. It provides clarity, "as well as a roadmap for daily fantasy companies and casinos to provide popular fantasy sports within Nevada borders," the association said.

    Daniel Wallach, a sports law expert from Florida, said the board's decision is not going to "cause an extinction of fantasy sports from Nevada, forevermore." But it confirmed what Wallach and other observers familiar with the gambling industry have long contended.

    "Fantasy is a form of gambling that should be licensed just like sports betting, just like any other form of gambling," he said.
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    The casino lobby owns every politician in the state. The casinos dont like this sort of competition for their sports books. They will use their bought politicians to drive Draft Kings and FanDuel out of the state and immediately open their own daily fantasy games and reap the benefits. In America you either buy lobbyists or your competition does and you are out of business. This is plutocracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Glatt View Post
    The casino lobby owns every politician in the state. The casinos dont like this sort of competition for their sports books. They will use their bought politicians to drive Draft Kings and FanDuel out of the state and immediately open their own daily fantasy games and reap the benefits. In America you either buy lobbyists or your competition does and you are out of business. This is plutocracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug Glatt View Post
    The casino lobby owns every politician in the state. The casinos dont like this sort of competition for their sports books. They will use their bought politicians to drive Draft Kings and FanDuel out of the state and immediately open their own daily fantasy games and reap the benefits. In America you either buy lobbyists or your competition does and you are out of business. This is plutocracy.
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    Betting on outcomes with variance = gambling. There is a skill aspect to it, but you can make all the right decisions and still lose. To be a winner you need to use proper bankroll management and put in a lot of volume to get your true ROI.

    Draft Kings and Fan Duel are pretty much Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker from 10-15 years ago. They're mass unregulated gaming websites. They offer the same kind of deposit bonuses and DFS is setup exactly like a poker tournament.

    US government getting their hands in on this is no surprise... And honestly it's a good thing long term for everyone. Tons of these gaming sites in the past have been run by criminals that steal money from their customers. The poker industry is out millions upon millions of dollars from these companies stealing player funds. They do not keep player funds separate from their own, and use player money to fund daily operations and employee salaries. Ultimate Bet, Full Tilt Poker, Lock Poker, TONS of sites on Microgaming, iPoker network... the list goes on and on.

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    Update - StarsDraft pulling out of 46 states in the US. Once again, following the exact same course as online poker but at a much faster rate. I'm guessing this is a sign of things to come.

    http://www.legalsportsreport.com/538...ates-from-dfs/

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    I am glad that I never got addicted to these sites...

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    The Nevada Gaming Commission couldn't care less how the DFS industry is characterized; they simply want to put their hand in the money pot too. By requiring DFS operators to own a state license, they can 'legally' profit from it.

    Current estimates peg that entry fees for DFS will come in at 2.6 billion this year, and grow to 14 billion in 5 years.... It's all about the money...
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