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    Keep three of 4 c

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    Brass, Kes and Spezz for me.

    Brass: NYR sched (great in daily) and since it's ESPN he may get dual with LW again this year

    Kes: ANA sched (even better in daily) and great with your peripherals

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    Couldn't justify Berg here without FOW or SHP as a cat since I don't trust BOS +/- this year.
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    Brassard
    Kesler
    Spezza

    Bergeron tough to pass here but with no FOW I think he misses your cut.

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    I agree with Spezza kesler and brassard.
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    I'm keeping Bergeron over Kesler. PIM is really the only definite advantage that he has over Bergeron. Even without FOW, I would bet on Bergeron continuing to out produce Kesler offensively and that is more important in this format. +/- should still be Bergeron (regardless of team strength - see Kesler last year) but that category really is a crapshoot.

    Also, a good point touched on above about Anaheim's schedule, which would help having Kesler. However, when I look at his setup I see a utility slot, so that's less of an issue keeping a 'bench' centre (assuming Thornton is an automatic). Furthermore, if Brassard still has LW eligibility then perhaps it works out ok lineup-wise.

    Brassard, Spezza, Bergeron.

    Just curious though, did you omit Thornton because he's an automatic and of all your remaining choices, only these centres would be your bubble keepers?

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    I'm with the majority...Kesler, Spezza and Brassard

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    Pretty clear to me that Bergeron looks to be the odd man out. I don't have to make a call right away but I wanted to see if what my plan was is sound. I still have a couple of irons in the fire but thanks thus far.

    And yes Joe is a lock for my keeper list which is why I didn't include. However if something came up I would not rule him out in a trade offer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    Pretty clear to me that Bergeron looks to be the odd man out. I don't have to make a call right away but I wanted to see if what my plan was is sound. I still have a couple of irons in the fire but thanks thus far.

    And yes Joe is a lock for my keeper list which is why I didn't include. However if something came up I would not rule him out in a trade offer.
    I'm still happy to be in the minority.

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    I would probably look to trade Brassard here, and keep Kesler, Spezza, Bergeron. I understand why people are wary of Bergeron's value right now, but he's an elite possession-driver and he should be relied on for 55-points easily, obviously with upside for more largely dependent on usage. I think Brassard is a nice piece and everything, probably more valuable than Bergeron, but not by very much in my opinion. His perceived value is much, much higher than Bergeron, yet his actual value is pretty similar. For that reason, I would capitalize on the "value gap" (between actual / perceived value), and use that to your advantage in consolidating keepers.

    See if you can make some magic happen with Brassard +, and maybe this question will become a moot consideration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by horrorfan View Post
    I'm keeping Bergeron over Kesler. PIM is really the only definite advantage that he has over Bergeron. Even without FOW, I would bet on Bergeron continuing to out produce Kesler offensively and that is more important in this format. +/- should still be Bergeron (regardless of team strength - see Kesler last year) but that category really is a crapshoot.

    Also, a good point touched on above about Anaheim's schedule, which would help having Kesler. However, when I look at his setup I see a utility slot, so that's less of an issue keeping a 'bench' centre (assuming Thornton is an automatic). Furthermore, if Brassard still has LW eligibility then perhaps it works out ok lineup-wise.

    Brassard, Spezza, Bergeron.

    Just curious though, did you omit Thornton because he's an automatic and of all your remaining choices, only these centres would be your bubble keepers?
    I actually agree with you and don't mind joining you in the minority.

    I'd keep Bergeron over Kesler as well for pretty much the same reasons as HF. Also, his PDO (puck luck) was down a bit last year so I expect a bit of a rebound for him. Keslers puck luck stayed around the same.

    Brassard and Spezza would be my other keeps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YzermansLegacy View Post
    Brass, Kes and Spezz for me.

    Brass: NYR sched (great in daily) and since it's ESPN he may get dual with LW again this year

    Kes: ANA sched (even better in daily) and great with your peripherals

    Spezz: Will help in a number of cats seeing the 2nd best defenders and getting PP time with Sequin & Benn (at least for the amount of time he's healthy)

    Couldn't justify Berg here without FOW or SHP as a cat since I don't trust BOS +/- this year.

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    Brassard is a guy I am on the fence about..i mean they guy is money with Nash, butif that doesn't work like it did last year then hes fairly replaceable.

    like I said I am not ruling anybody out of a trade, but to make my keepers work it woud need to be a 2for1 or a 3 for 2 in the other guys favour so I don't want to get hosed too badly..knowing I will take a hit though.

    If it comes down to outright dropping to make my keepers then I guess that's what has to be done..
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    Brassard is a guy I am on the fence about..i mean they guy is money with Nash, butif that doesn't work like it did last year then hes fairly replaceable.

    like I said I am not ruling anybody out of a trade, but to make my keepers work it woud need to be a 2for1 or a 3 for 2 in the other guys favour so I don't want to get hosed too badly..knowing I will take a hit though.

    If it comes down to outright dropping to make my keepers then I guess that's what has to be done..
    As a long time Brassard owner I agree with this. I LOVE that he ha a great year but everything just screams regression here. People are getting some convenient amnesia about how injury prone he is. Also hes a pass first guy- always will be which will hurt peripherals. Like I said I love his season this year- and I look brilliant drafting him (and trading for him for peanuts pre-season in another league)- but Im actually gonna be shopping him tis year. My best comparable- just my opinion here- is a Ribeiro type career (without the creepy nanny stuff). he'll have some deceivingly good seasons but will need the right bounces (READ: Linemates and health) to make an impact.

    So I guess Im still keeping him over Bergeron in this format- but I really agree that Brass is a great sell-high candidate. bergeron is still a solid underrated keeper so getting good value for brass and keeping Bergeron would be a savvy move imho.

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    Agree 100% with YzermansLegacy. No FOW or SHP greatly devalues Bergeron

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    ..made some moves along my C lineup

    shipped out Brassard, Spezza and Goli for EStaal, Hoffman and Boychuk..I might have lost this one, but then again if Staal heats back up and Spezza gets injured its a win IMO. Hoffman is a nice toss in

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