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    Quote Originally Posted by tobias View Post
    You need to get rid of Kane. Both him and Toews are FA in my cap league, and I don't see them getting picked up any time soon.
    thats whats wrong with cap leagues

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    I dont like either deal. You barely shed any in trade B.

    I would outright drop Alzner & J Johnson to save over 8 mil before either of those trades.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender View Post
    Trade #1

    Traded:
    Lucic (6mil)\Maatta (894,166)\De Leo

    Got:
    Klingberg (4.25 mil)\Nielson (2.75 mil)

    Was targetting Klingberg's contract with this trade as I see it being a great one very soon. Love Maatta in real life, just don't think he has huge fantasy potential with Letang\Pouliot around.

    Trade #2

    I gave:
    Patrick Kane (10.5 mil)

    I got:
    Letang (7.250 mil)
    Nesterov (742,500)
    B. Bennett (800,000)

    Was just trying to move P. Kane's salary since I already have some huge contracts who fit the categories better (Ovi). Looked at FHG and Letang was more valuable and 3.25 million cheaper and went for it. Not a single other person in my league wanted anything to do with P. Kane. Figured if Letang is healthy he is amazing in this format. If he is injured I can bury his salary and pick up a very good FA since there are several in my league.
    To be honest, I think Trade#1 was a slight loss, but if you feel strongly in Klingberg, then it wasn't crazy bad. That second deal, even before news of P.Kane's potentially huge problem, to go along with his massive cap hit, getting Letang and Nesterov (not a fan of Bennett) was an outright coup in my opinion. I really like Letang, even though his cap hit is high and his penchant for getting hurt. The real beauty of Letang is that he produces when he's healthy and when he's hurt, you can put him on IR and find some high priced help via the waiver wire (assuming there are some expensive vets just sitting as FA's).
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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    thats whats wrong with cap leagues
    Cap leagues certainly aren't for the general hockey fan. You need committed, hardcore, and extremely knowledgeable managers in order for them to work; managers who can find value in the players who are selected in fewer than 10% of pools. I would never go back to a non-cap league again.

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    Ya I have always been in non-cap leagues and now just started one....24 teams deep! Will be very interesting to see the transition in player values etc.
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
    LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
    RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
    D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
    G: Andersen, Mason
    Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette

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    Quote Originally Posted by GinFizz View Post
    thats whats wrong with cap leagues
    No, that is how poor value their contracts deliver. These are franchise handicapping contracts. They were not good they day they signed them.
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    Ya with all their team success I am surprised they signed for over 10 mil each....just so much room to commit to two players.
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    C: Scheifele, Sedin, Stastny, Zetterberg
    LW: Panarin, Landeskog,
    RW: P. Kane, , Meier, Mantha, Anderson, Coyle, Hansen
    D: Carlson, Faulk, Hamilton, Trouba, Goligoski, Matheson
    G: Andersen, Mason
    Minors: Demko, Virtanen, Walman, Benson, Gourde, Boqvist, Glass, Foote, Claesson, Gaudette

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    Yea cap leagues are certainly an interesting beast. Especially when teams go and give out massive contracts. Having big name FA's in my league is just strange, not used to it haha. (Datsyuk, Edler, Marleau, Sedin, Suter, Staal, Thornton, etc)

    Thanks for the feedback guys. I had a feeling hte first one was a little bit of overpayment. I liked the second one though and now with the added bonus of hte kane investigation he is already back on the trade block lol.

    I was just offered mcdavid:

    I get:
    McDavid $925,000
    Clifford $1,600,000
    Kuemper $1,250,000
    3rd

    I give:
    Zibanejad $2,625,000
    Nichushkin 925,000
    J. Johnson $4,357,140
    Gibson $752,500

    What do you guys think? I know what I think but curious to get some feedback since it is McDavid.

    My team currently after trades etc:

    C: Kesler, Zibanejad, Nielson
    LW: Ovechkin, Anders Lee, Kuznetsov
    RW: Kessel, Stone, Nichsukin
    FWD: Hayes, Bennett, Jarnkrok
    D: Letang, Green, J. Johnson, Klingberg, S. Jones, Ceci
    G: M. Jones
    B: Nesterov, Vasilevskiy, Gibson

    Free agency doesn't start for a fews weeks which is why I have some empty spots.

    12 H2H Dynasty:
    S: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, Hits
    G: W, GAA, SV%, SHO
    LW: Robertson, Debrincat, Gaudreau
    C: Matthews, Point, Kuznetsov
    RW: Kyrou, Toffoli, Rakell
    D: Chychurn, Krug, Gavrikov, Giordano, Liljegren
    W/FWD/Skt: JT Miller, Nelson, Farabee
    G: Bobrovsky, Swayman
    Bench: Horvat, Dach, Greenway, R. Smith, Stutzle, Kunin, Skjei, E. Johnson
    Farm: Johnston, Raty, Maccelli, Lysell, Quinn, Sandin, Brannstrom, Dostal, Forsberg, Gustavsson, Thompson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moses View Post
    No, that is how poor value their contracts deliver. These are franchise handicapping contracts. They were not good they day they signed them.
    When Toews is sitting on the FA list and no one is touching him because of his contract there is a problem. I get it, he doesnt generate value but still c'mon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bender View Post
    I was just offered mcdavid:

    I get:
    McDavid $925,000
    Clifford $1,600,000
    Kuemper $1,250,000
    3rd

    I give:
    Zibanejad $2,625,000
    Nichushkin 925,000
    J. Johnson $4,357,140
    Gibson $752,500

    What do you guys think? I know what I think but curious to get some feedback since it is McDavid.
    I would take the deal. You're giving up a lot of pieces that could end up being pretty good but you're not giving up anyone even near McDavid in value, so it's worth it.

    In new dynasty leagues with salary cap, McDavid is very often taken #1 right now. So ahead of guys like Tavares, Crosby etc. Nichushkin and Gibson are nice pieces but more like in the #80 pick range more likely. JJ and Ziba are maybe Top-120 players.

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    Thats pretty much what i figured JP. I am giving away a lot of quality pieces, but not elite pieces. Would love to keep specifically Nichushkin but not sure its worth screwing up the deal to try and do ha.

    12 H2H Dynasty:
    S: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, Hits
    G: W, GAA, SV%, SHO
    LW: Robertson, Debrincat, Gaudreau
    C: Matthews, Point, Kuznetsov
    RW: Kyrou, Toffoli, Rakell
    D: Chychurn, Krug, Gavrikov, Giordano, Liljegren
    W/FWD/Skt: JT Miller, Nelson, Farabee
    G: Bobrovsky, Swayman
    Bench: Horvat, Dach, Greenway, R. Smith, Stutzle, Kunin, Skjei, E. Johnson
    Farm: Johnston, Raty, Maccelli, Lysell, Quinn, Sandin, Brannstrom, Dostal, Forsberg, Gustavsson, Thompson

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