rank em. hall vs seguin vs tavares

[roenick27]

All have good contracts. All are elite type talents. How do you rank these 3?
14 team dynasty
Standard yahoo cats. (G A Pts PIM +/- SOG PPP SHP) H2H.

Me personally it is a toss up between seguin and JT with Hall fairly far behind. How do you see them and why?

[ztking]

Talent wise its:
JT
Hall
Seguin
In my opinion.

But situation wise and points I have it something like:
JT (highest ceiling in my opinion, generates so much offense on his own, should be 85-90 most seasons with potential for a couple 95ish seasons, look out if he gets a LW)
Seguin (great supporting cast and highest floor, most seasons around 85pts)
Hall (weak team, average linemates, 70-80pt most seasons)

Just my thoughts

[jcairns]

This year is the year I throw in the towel on Tavares and his magical "100 pt upside". Time to look at reality and what these players have done so far in their careers. I see no reason why I shouldn't treat Seguin as better than Tavares, especially in this league.

With those settings, I'm going:

Seguin
Tavares
Hall

[vonderpibe]

This year is the year I throw in the towel on Tavares and his magical "100 pt upside". Time to look at reality and what these players have done so far in their careers. I see no reason why I shouldn't treat Seguin as better than Tavares, especially in this league.

With those settings, I'm going:

Seguin
Tavares
Hall

+1, this would be my ranking as well.

[Savvy1982]

This year is the year I throw in the towel on Tavares and his magical "100 pt upside". Time to look at reality and what these players have done so far in their careers. I see no reason why I shouldn't treat Seguin as better than Tavares, especially in this league.

With those settings, I'm going:

Seguin
Tavares
Hall

Exactly this.

Well said.

[Maaaasquito]

This year is the year I throw in the towel on Tavares and his magical "100 pt upside". Time to look at reality and what these players have done so far in their careers. I see no reason why I shouldn't treat Seguin as better than Tavares, especially in this league.

With those settings, I'm going:

Seguin
Tavares
Hall

I dunno you have to think the NHL is changing... it's kinda moving away from the 1 line teams, to team depth and offense-by committee...

If you look at the "100-point mark", since the 2010-11 season, there have been only 4 players (Sedin, Malkin, MSL-prorated, Crosby) who have hit that century mark, so I think it's a bit high of a bar to set for a player to get into that "100 point" range nowadays, you're looking at basically the top scorer for the season...

If you look at the numbers from last season only Crosby hit the century mark, and everyone else was no where near it, Getz 87, Giroux 86, Seguin 84...

If you look at those "elite" scorers, a lot of their production comes from assists... Seguin has Benn who's an elite scorer, Tavares is still missing that really big game breaker (Okposo is okay, but not Benn level), Hall struggles with an inconsistent Eberle/RNH...

At the moment I think it's Seguin, Tavares then Hall...

But with that said, if Hall gets a gamebreaker like McDavid, the situation could change very easily in the next 3-4 years...

[islefan31]

I don't see any of these guys hitting 100...so let's call it their ceiling. But I put Seguin=Tavares with Hall slightly behind. Any one of these 3 could out point the others in a given year, puck luck, linemates, etc. I would say all 3 are 80-90 point players with the occasional crapper thrown in and be happy with any one of them on my squad.

[pmorrow]

This year is the year I throw in the towel on Tavares and his magical "100 pt upside".

Because it's not 100, its 120

[jcairns]

I don't see any of these guys hitting 100...so let's call it their ceiling. But I put Seguin=Tavares with Hall slightly behind. Any one of these 3 could out point the others in a given year, puck luck, linemates, etc. I would say all 3 are 80-90 point players with the occasional crapper thrown in and be happy with any one of them on my squad.

Yes... so if the league also counts shots and +/- then Seguin is above Tavares, and that was sort of my reasoning too.

[islefan31]

Yes... so if the league also counts shots and +/- then Seguin is above Tavares, and that was sort of my reasoning too.

Gotcha..makes sense. But +/- is a tough one to predict year in and out...this year OK.

[roenick27]

Thanks so far guys. Pretty much my feeling as well. All 3 are sick players but I felt with seguin and his dual rw/c eligibility (and cats) it would nudge him ahead of JT

[Fast Tony DeNiro]

SOG puts Seguin ahead for me. Dual positions doesn't hurt, either. He also has an extra year on his contract, I think.

Tavares is very close, as is Hall but I do have him third.

[DrakeZero]

I still think Tavares is 100 pts material guy, but yes given the stats of what they done seguin and tavares are equal.

My rankings are:

Tavares
Seguin
Hall

But its very close between 1&2. Hall needs to either be traded or get better linemates to hit that next gear.

[Joe13]

This year is the year I throw in the towel on Tavares and his magical "100 pt upside". Time to look at reality and what these players have done so far in their careers. I see no reason why I shouldn't treat Seguin as better than Tavares, especially in this league.

With those settings, I'm going:

Seguin
Tavares
Hall

This analysis sums it up really well.

[Leafs&G86]

1-Seguin- still doesn't get the respect he deserves also the youngest of the group.
2-Tavares- if the isles can pick a a LW his numbers will get better.
3-Hall- would love to see what he could do on a actual NHL team.