View Poll Results: Would you rather have Huberdeau or Hamilton? My pool counts +- for D and this adds extra points to H

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Thread: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

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    Default Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    Please help, is Huberdeaus upside too big to let go of. I've won this pool 2 years in a row. Not sure I need Hamilton and I can probably wait another year for Huberdeau to improve but I dont want to wait 3-4 years.
    12 team keeper league. Points only +/- for d counted.

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    R. Getzlaf, N. Backstrom, T. Hall, J. Eberle, P. Kane, J. VanRiemsdyk, K. Turris, O. Palat, T. Toffoli, M. Zucarello, C. Atkinson, N. Bjugstad

    Defense

    Keith, Subban, Fowler, Barrie, Goligoski, Brodin

    Goalies

    Bernier, Crawford

    Bench

    Huberdeau, Gormley, Kuemper

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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    Your D is pretty stacked. I'd sit on the upside of hubs over the upside of Hamilton. Stan pat IMO.

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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    Sorry I just changed my sig. The team you saw was from 3 years ago. If you have a sec take a look again and please tell me what you think.
    12 team keeper league. Points only +/- for d counted.

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    R. Getzlaf, N. Backstrom, T. Hall, J. Eberle, P. Kane, J. VanRiemsdyk, K. Turris, O. Palat, T. Toffoli, M. Zucarello, C. Atkinson, N. Bjugstad

    Defense

    Keith, Subban, Fowler, Barrie, Goligoski, Brodin

    Goalies

    Bernier, Crawford

    Bench

    Huberdeau, Gormley, Kuemper

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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    If +/- is counted for D, Hamilton is a potentially nicce option obviously...+22 last season

    Letang is a risk due to always being injured and cannot accumulate stats from the trainer's room...

    Phaneuf & Franson are likely to range between -5 to +5 depending on how bad Toronto is this year defensively as a team

    Big Buff likely will not have a good +/-....-46 for his career and -20 last season

    Subban should be good, but was -4 last season even though he is +10 for his career

    Streit was +3 last season and the Flyers D is pretty weak so that may slide

    So, I see why you are interested in Hamilton, but Huberdeau has high upside so I'd probably hold onto him

    Why is Bernier on your bench? I might dangle Crawford and see what you can get and bring Bernier into the starting lineup

    Also, I'd get Scheifele into your lineup if you can
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    12 Team Keeper League - 12F, 6D, 3G, 3 Bench (Keep 6, in Bold)
    $250 Cap (0-9 +3; 10-19 +4; >20 +5 each season)
    WW = $10

    G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, GWG, SHG, W, GAA, SV%, SO - Points Based League

    F: Guentzel (15), Point (11), Barzal (18), WNylander (15), Trochek (1), Eberle (1), Domi (4), Toffoli (1), TBertuzzi (1), Buchnevich (1), Tuch (1), Puljujarvi (1)

    D: Theodore (17), Heiskanen (15), Pulock (7), Sanheim (1), Faulk (1), Morrissey (1)

    G: Markstrom (7), Saros (15), Binnington (39), Jarry (40)

    B: DeSmith (1), Lindblom (1)

    IR or Out: Ghost (1), OEL (9), Teravainen (28), PMyers (1)






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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    Stick with Huberdeau. You have a nice group of defenders already, while your forwards tail off a bit towards the end.
    20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) PPP (15) SHP (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) SOW (75) HIT (1) BLK (2) W (50) SHO (100) OTL (10) GA (-15) SV (2) Use actual NHL salary

    Start 12 F, 6 D, 1G weekly

    F: Kucherov, Marchand, Barkov, Gaudreau, Laine, Aho, Dubois, Dadonov, Huberdeau, Trocheck, Bertuzzi, Beauvillier, Khaira, Grigorenko

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    G: Andersen, Hart

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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    I see your roster has changed....

    Keith is a nice addition and shoud have good +/-

    Fowler was +15 so you should be ok there

    Subban, see above

    Barrie was +17 last season, but some believe COL is due for a correction which may impact team +/- performance

    Goligoski was even 2 out of the last 3 years, was +4 last year...

    Brodin was even 2 years ago and +3 last season

    I think you're better off now and should keep Huberdeau
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    12 Team Keeper League - 12F, 6D, 3G, 3 Bench (Keep 6, in Bold)
    $250 Cap (0-9 +3; 10-19 +4; >20 +5 each season)
    WW = $10

    G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, GWG, SHG, W, GAA, SV%, SO - Points Based League

    F: Guentzel (15), Point (11), Barzal (18), WNylander (15), Trochek (1), Eberle (1), Domi (4), Toffoli (1), TBertuzzi (1), Buchnevich (1), Tuch (1), Puljujarvi (1)

    D: Theodore (17), Heiskanen (15), Pulock (7), Sanheim (1), Faulk (1), Morrissey (1)

    G: Markstrom (7), Saros (15), Binnington (39), Jarry (40)

    B: DeSmith (1), Lindblom (1)

    IR or Out: Ghost (1), OEL (9), Teravainen (28), PMyers (1)






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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    I'd do it.

    Hamilton is about to become a beast for points AND +/- from the backend. Brodin is a better real life D than fantasy option and doesn't score much.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

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    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    I would try and move the upside of Hub for a veteran to a rebuilding team!
    10 Team keeper league
    (9F, 4D, 2G, 4 bench, 2 IR)
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    Goals-1, Assists-1, PPP-0.5, SHG=1, Hits-0.05, BS-0.05, Shots-0.05, Wins-2, Shutouts-2, Saves 0.01, Defenseman Pts-0.5

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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    I like Hamilton. But don't read too much into +/-. It's all over the place and very seldomly maintained. It'll always regress towards the mean.

    Krecji (who led +/- this year)last four years: -5, +3, +1, +39.
    Main Squad: H2H Multicat Points
    10 Team 16 Keepers

    G:3 A:2 +/-:1 PPP:0.5 PIM:0.25 Shot:0.2 Hit:0.2 Block:0.2
    W:3 SV:0.2 GA:-1 SO:3

    3C 3LW 3RW 5D 2G 5 BENCH 2IR

    C: Crosby, Malkin, Giroux, Getzlaf, Barkov
    LW: Ovechkin, Benn, Landeskog, E. Kane
    RW: Kessel, Perry, Hudler, Atkinson
    D: Letang, Carlson, Yandle, Rielly, Leddy
    G: Schneider, Rask, Anderson

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    Keep them coming fellas lol. So far it seems pretty unanimous that I keep Huberdeau. Just remember in my league even if Hamilton maxes out at 50ish points his +- can make him a ppg player in our scoring cats.

    Important note. We have not drafted yet and I can get myself some decent high potential forwards to replace Huberdeau. D is scarce with whats out there to draft.
    12 team keeper league. Points only +/- for d counted.

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    R. Getzlaf, N. Backstrom, T. Hall, J. Eberle, P. Kane, J. VanRiemsdyk, K. Turris, O. Palat, T. Toffoli, M. Zucarello, C. Atkinson, N. Bjugstad

    Defense

    Keith, Subban, Fowler, Barrie, Goligoski, Brodin

    Goalies

    Bernier, Crawford

    Bench

    Huberdeau, Gormley, Kuemper

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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    Quote Originally Posted by ztking View Post
    I like Hamilton. But don't read too much into +/-. It's all over the place and very seldomly maintained. It'll always regress towards the mean.

    Krecji (who led +/- this year)last four years: -5, +3, +1, +39.
    +/- is counted for his D as a cat which is why it is being discussed...I agree with you and cannot stand +/- as a cat, but his league has it that way
    Champion: 2010, 2014, 2015, 2016
    12 Team Keeper League - 12F, 6D, 3G, 3 Bench (Keep 6, in Bold)
    $250 Cap (0-9 +3; 10-19 +4; >20 +5 each season)
    WW = $10

    G, A, +/-, PPG, PPA, GWG, SHG, W, GAA, SV%, SO - Points Based League

    F: Guentzel (15), Point (11), Barzal (18), WNylander (15), Trochek (1), Eberle (1), Domi (4), Toffoli (1), TBertuzzi (1), Buchnevich (1), Tuch (1), Puljujarvi (1)

    D: Theodore (17), Heiskanen (15), Pulock (7), Sanheim (1), Faulk (1), Morrissey (1)

    G: Markstrom (7), Saros (15), Binnington (39), Jarry (40)

    B: DeSmith (1), Lindblom (1)

    IR or Out: Ghost (1), OEL (9), Teravainen (28), PMyers (1)






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    Default Re: Should I trade My Huberdeau for Hamilton. League cats are points and +- counts for D only.

    Another vote for Huberdeau. The kid apparently put on 17 pounds over the summer. While that sometimes doesn't work out for hockey players, I think I'd wait until I see how he does this season. I'd be sticking it out with Hubs.
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