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    Anyone else feeling like this is Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson all over again (minus the hype?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savvy1982 View Post
    Anyone else feeling like this is Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson all over again (minus the hype?)
    You mean a prospect that the Oilers can trade for another Perron? I bet the Oilers hope so!


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    Quote Originally Posted by ericdaoust View Post
    You mean a prospect that the Oilers can trade for another Perron? I bet the Oilers hope so!
    Well played.

    I just get the feeling he's another smaller skill guy who won't be able to crack the Top 6, and will eventually find success elsewhere, be it the NHL or overseas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savvy1982 View Post
    Anyone else feeling like this is Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson all over again (minus the hype?)
    I don't see the comparison at all really. MPS was a top 10 draft pick, over 6' and 200lbs. I am still a big believer that he was never really utilized properly in the NHL, both by Edmonton and now by St Louis.

    This kid was passed over in the draft simply because of his size, not his skill. If this kid was 5'10" and played with the skill he has, he would have been a 1st round draft pick.

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the comparison you are hinting at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by petegreg21 View Post
    What's the cut off for signing an undrafted guy like that that can re-enter the draft?
    CBA 8.9 (b) (ii) had played hockey in North America the prior season and was under age 20 at the time of the last Entry Draft, and signed an SPC which was signed and registered with the League between the conclusion of the Entry Draft and commencement of the Major Juniors season (except that if such Player had signed an NHL try-out form, which was signed and registered with the League during the aforesaid time period, then the deadline for signing and registering with the League an SPC with such try-out Club shall be the commencement of the NHL Season).
    So there's two possible deadlines - either the start of major juniors season or the start of the NHL season. If Tkachev has signed a try-out deal with the Oilers, then the latter deadline is applicable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I don't see the comparison at all really. MPS was a top 10 draft pick, over 6' and 200lbs. I am still a big believer that he was never really utilized properly in the NHL, both by Edmonton and now by St Louis.

    This kid was passed over in the draft simply because of his size, not his skill. If this kid was 5'10" and played with the skill he has, he would have been a 1st round draft pick.

    Maybe it's just me, but I don't see the comparison you are hinting at.
    I have to agree that I don't see any kind of connection to MPS.

    After doing more digging on this kid though I think we have some other concerns with his lack of defensive play. However, this is mainly from reports of people who watched him play a few times, so nothing too definitive.

    My excitement has been pulled back quite a bit, but since it costs very little to see him at camp, I'm not complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doulos View Post
    I have to agree that I don't see any kind of connection to MPS.

    After doing more digging on this kid though I think we have some other concerns with his lack of defensive play. However, this is mainly from reports of people who watched him play a few times, so nothing too definitive.

    My excitement has been pulled back quite a bit, but since it costs very little to see him at camp, I'm not complaining.
    He may have meant Linus Omark. The size is closer - otherwise comparison to MPS makes no sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shift Disturber View Post
    He may have meant Linus Omark. The size is closer - otherwise comparison to MPS makes no sense.
    You're absolutely bang-on.

    It was Omark I was thinking of - sorry everybody. Apparently my brain took yesterday off...
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    That makes a bit more sense. Sure, there's a bit of Omark rattling around there. But he's not Omark, he's Tkachev. So they will give him a chance to see what he's made of I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Savvy1982 View Post
    You're absolutely bang-on.

    It was Omark I was thinking of - sorry everybody. Apparently my brain took yesterday off...
    Gotcha. That makes more sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by doulos View Post
    That makes a bit more sense. Sure, there's a bit of Omark rattling around there. But he's not Omark, he's Tkachev. So they will give him a chance to see what he's made of I suppose.
    I wish Omark had worked out. I would have loved to have seen more of those creative shootout moves in the NHL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petegreg21 View Post
    I wish Omark had worked out. I would have loved to have seen more of those creative shootout moves in the NHL.
    Yeah, he was a lot fun to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by doulos View Post
    That makes a bit more sense. Sure, there's a bit of Omark rattling around there. But he's not Omark, he's Tkachev. So they will give him a chance to see what he's made of I suppose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitun-tyhmä View Post
    chances of him making the team?
    He's playing for a contract, not a roster spot.

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