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    The league format is 10 skater + 5 goalie cats, 18 player + 2 goalie slots (+ bench), 25 farm players.

    1st + 3rd overall picks (NHL Draft), for:

    Jeff Carter
    Ryan Miller
    Adam Larsson
    Magnus Paajarvi
    Jason Zucker

    Which side wins?

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    I will kick the cat on this one.

    Unless you plan on placing Larsson, Paajarvi and Zucker in your minors I dont know how this deal works out for you. You are taking on 5 possible roster players for 2 rookies. That means you are going to have to clear as many as 5 people off your current roster to make this work. I dont know how many teams are in your league but I am going to assume that is going to be hard to do. Even if you plan on moving the three I mentioned before to your minors, that means you will still need to clear 2 roster spots and 3 minors spots. Again, without all the information on your current roster this trade is hard to assess, and that is probably why no one else is responding to your post.

    While some of those skaters offered to you are good quality players, I would rather keep the 1st and 3rd overall picks. You have to think that if you were to offer them up to the rest of your league in a trade block, you'd probably get back a better package with better players coming to you.

    To me this is simply offering 5 quaters for a couple dollars. I'd pass here. The 1st and 3rd are going to be very, very good players from this years draft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by znith View Post
    The league format is 10 skater + 5 goalie cats, 18 player + 2 goalie slots (+ bench), 25 farm players.

    1st + 3rd overall picks (NHL Draft), for:

    Jeff Carter
    Ryan Miller
    Adam Larsson
    Magnus Paajarvi
    Jason Zucker

    Which side wins?
    What is your current team, how many players do you keep, any salary caps??
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    W- Forsberg, Batherson, Nichuskin, Tuch, Konecny, Maccelli, Sharangovich, Bertuzzi, Kaliyev, Neighbours, Reichel
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    Goalie value depends on how many teams are in this league.

    In a 10 or 12-team league... I like the 1st & 3rd overall picks.
    In a 16 or greater team league... I like the Ryan Miller side.

    In a 14-team league... it's about even.

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    14 team league, don't worry about roster spots - asking strictly from a value POV

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    Quote Originally Posted by znith View Post
    14 team league, don't worry about roster spots - asking strictly from a value POV
    correct value cannot be determined without all of the information about the league
     
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    Roster spots are unimportant as I trade so much that I can easily make room. Plus like I said, 25 farm spots. Just asking from a value stand point, once again like I said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by znith View Post
    Roster spots are unimportant as I trade so much that I can easily make room. Plus like I said, 25 farm spots. Just asking from a value stand point, once again like I said...
    once again like i said value cannot be determined without the information about your league

    that is why multiple people have asked you for that information

    if you dont want to share that information that is your business but dont expect people to be able to give you good advice without it
     
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    To me it's pretty simple. I'd rather own MacKinnon than Miller. I also think he holds more trade value than Miller in pretty much any league format. I'd also rather own one of Drouin/Barkov than Carter who I simply hate. While adding guys like Larssen, Zucker and MPS are nice I don't see Zucker and MPS being much more than depth players in their career (I'm still holding out hope for MPS but he needs to be moved). Larssen could be a gem Dman but he's clearly a few years away from ever being fantasy a stud (if at all). So those three don't tip the scale enough for me to want to part with MacKinnon or Drouin/Barkov.

    In case it's not clear. I'd draft Barkov over Jones with the 3rd pick..
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