Monster Trade : Jays and Marlins

[bondon]

Those of you that know me and see how often I post in the Jays thread know how critical I can be of the team but let's not crap over this trade because the bottom line is that this deal was a fleecing. It still is.

It was the Dickey deal that really looks terrible right now (and I wasn't a big fan of it then) and the rest of the guys already on the team doing everything they can to lose.

And EV, if we're talking about spending $ wisely I wouldn't look at the Red Sox as the gold standard for that. They're just lucky that LA was dumb enough and rich enough to take on all of their salaries.

[Big Ev]

Those of you that know me and see how often I post in the Jays thread know how critical I can be of the team but let's not crap over this trade because the bottom line is that this deal was a fleecing. It still is.

It was the Dickey deal that really looks terrible right now (and I wasn't a big fan of it then) and the rest of the guys already on the team doing everything they can to lose.

And EV, if we're talking about spending $ wisely I wouldn't look at the Red Sox as the gold standard for that. They're just lucky that LA was dumb enough and rich enough to take on all of their salaries.

Can the same not be said about the Marlins? They were lucky that the Jays took all their salary. It wasn't a fleecing in the sense that they wanted to get rid of salary. They didn't want anything in return.

The Jays IMO need to go back to drafting and developing as that's the only way they will be able to compete. The Red Sox are good, and have won two WS, based on drafting and developing for the most part.

Who is the last star player the Jays have grown at home? Are there any on this current team?

[Axeman33]

Can the same not be said about the Marlins? They were lucky that the Jays took all their salary. It wasn't a fleecing in the sense that they wanted to get rid of salary. They didn't want anything in return.

The Jays IMO need to go back to drafting and developing as that's the only way they will be able to compete. The Red Sox are good, and have won two WS, based on drafting and developing for the most part.

Who is the last star player the Jays have grown at home? Are there any on this current team?

They drafted JP Arencibia didnt they? He's a star player right??

[bondon]

Who is the last star player the Jays have grown at home? Are there any on this current team?

Nope, not a single one. Halladay, Wells, Rios. The list is a short one.

I don't disagree, I've long had issues with the way this organization has been run from a scouting and development perspective. Doesn't help when your first round selections refuse to sign with your club. Thank god for baseball's draft rule that gives you a compensatory pick in the following year or else not only would we be losing years of development but also burning picks to boot.

[bondon]

The Dickey trade might just be AA's legacy. Depends on D'Arnaud. In hindsight, I wish we had kept Buck, traded JP, and let D'Arnaud develop as the future stud he's projected to be. Sadly, he will do that for another team as Dickey struggles to regain his form.

From what I've read, D'Arnaud has dropped significantly in a lot of prospect rankings simply due to his high susceptibility to injury. Having a catcher that can only play a portion of the season is a real big buzzkill.

Syndergaard though is still trucking along in his development, he has pitched well at the AA level and seems to be progressing well.

[Big Ev]

Didn't notice the Blue jays Thread. My bad. You can move this discussion over there if you want

[bondon]

Didn't notice the Blue jays Thread. My bad. You can move this discussion over there if you want

Yeah, if you're gonna trash talk the Jays then at least do it with the rest of us lol