Not at the moment, lol!Originally Posted by Big Ev
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Good one, haha !
From my pt of view there is also a huge difference between been dominant into University level where you only play arround 40 games by season and been dominant on a full NHL level at 82 games ! He will need some time.
As much as I love Whitney he'll never be in the best shape again.
He's too injury-prone and I highly doubt that he'll ever be close to 100% in his carrer again.
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(G,A,SOG,HIT,BS,+/-,W,GAA,SV%,SO)
F: Crosby | Malkin | Ovechkin | Giroux | Toews | Perry | Bergeron | Kovalchuk (IR) | Duchene | Benn | Backes | Callahan | Landeskog | E. Staal | J. Staal | Galchenyuk | Gallagher | Silfverberg | Doan
D: Letang (IR) | Seabrook | Keith | Girardi | Green | Ehrhoff | Ellis | Kulikov | Trouba | Beaulieu | Spurgeon | M. Staal (IR) |
G: Lundqvist | Fleury
2006: 9th | 2007: 5th | 2008: 5th | 2009: 2nd | 2010: 1st | 2011: 1st |
I stated in a thread a while ago he could easily hit 40 when he signed with Edmonton. Nothing has changed since then.
Just because all the teams are lusting after an undrafted player doesn't mean he's got legit skill. There's been countless busts in the past (Brunnstrom, Da Costa are the top two that come to mind) of a player that a lot of teams lusted after that didn't pan out.
Do I think Schultz can be a 40-point guy? Yes, but not this year. Sure, he's had a great start in OC. But he's played what, four games? Let's see if he's still doing that in game 60. And then let's see if he can do that in game 60while matched up against guys like Datsyuk, Iginla, Thornton, Parise, Doughty, Keith, etc. on a nightly basis. My answer is no.
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Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
You can't compare Schultz to those other signings. And Day Costa is a young prospect with NHL potential. Not sure how you could call him a bust at all when he's hardly played in the NHL. Teams line up for these guys because they are free assets, not because they think and expect them to make a big impact. Its just like free draft picks.
Schultz is not an undrafted "late bloomer" like you seem to think. He was taken 43rd overall in 2008, and took advantage of a CBA loophole that allowed him to become a UFA instead of signing with Anaheim (the team who drafted him).
He was a finalist for the Hobey Baker the last two years, winning defender of the year and 1st team WCHA both years, and 1st team All-America last season. He's not a player who was unknown up until this last year, he's been a legitimate top NHL prospect for 3-4 years now.
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D: Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Edler, Pulock, Borowiecki, Weegar, Mike Reilly
G: Andersen, Hart
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Word. Kid's the real deal.
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Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
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I would not be surprised to see him hit 40pts. I wouldn't put a lot of money on it but I would put some. Say 30 bucks or so. They gave him the biggest contract they could and I'm assuming part of the deal was, "sure I'll sign with you, but I want lots of money and lots of minutes". I wouldn't be surprised either to see him lead the team in PPTOI.
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(G, A, P, +/-, Hits, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%)
Keepers
C: Tavares, Benn,
LW: Galchenyuk, Landeskog, .
RW: Pominville, Little, Oshie, Yakupov
D: Subban, Vatanen, Fowler
G: Price, Bishop
If he leads the team in PPTOI then he is a shoe-in for 50+
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G,A,+/-, PIM, PPG, SHG, GWG, OTG, FOWs, Hits, Blks, Maj, Mis, (bonus scoring for D-men makes them comparable to Wing)
Wins, Saves, GA, Shutouts
18 Man Roster (3 IR slots) Daily Start: 2C, 4W, 4D, 2G
C: Zibanejad, Thomas, Tavares
W: Stutzle, Robertson, Connor, Buchnevich, McCann
D: Makar, McAvoy, Josi, Theodore, Matheson, Harley
G: Georgiev, Binnington, Kochetkov, Andersen (IR)
I should clarify: I'm not saying Schultz is a bum. I think he'll be fine, and get 40 points in a season (not just this year), as I mentioned in my original posting.
I was speaking more generally: I just think that because a bunch of teams were after a certain player doesn't mean that player will become an elite talent. Or has talent that will translate easily to the NHL (again, generally speaking).
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12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.
League champ in 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2022.
Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
3 more assists tonight and is tied for the AHL scoring lead with 4g, 5a in 5 games.
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G(3), A(2), PPP(1), SHP(2), DG(+2), DA(+0.5)
W(5), S(.1), GA(-1), SO(5), OTL/SOL(2.5)
Dress weekly: 6 FW, 3 D, 1 Goalie
Forwards: Stamkos, Kucherov, Arvidsson, Hischier, Atkinson, Keller, Bjork, Stepan, E. Lindholm
Defense: Karlsson, Klefbom, Ekblad, Dumba, Montour
Goal: Talbot, Elliott
How often does it really happen though? It's pretty rare.
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Cats:G(3), A(1.5), PIM(0.2), PPP(1), SOG(0.2), GWG(1), SHP(2), Hits(0.3), BkS(0.4). W(2), SO(2), OTL(0.5), SV(0.2), GA(-1), L(-1). 9 Keepers in Bold. 12 player Farm team (skaters under 110, goalies under 80 gp) in italics
LW - Gaudreau, Forsberg, Parise, Hyman (C)
C - Backstrom, Getzlaf, N Foligno (LW/RW), Kotkaniemi, Carter (LW/RW)
RW - Tarasenko, Rantanen, Arvidsson, Atkinson, Gourde (C/LW), Mikheyev (RW)
D - Dahlin, Theodore, Ellis, Klingberg, Fox, Andersson
G - Murray, Grubauer
Prospects -Rossi, Turcotte, Kravstov, Tippett, Bouchard, Lehtonen, K Miller, Addison, DeSmith, Kahkonen, Ingram, Gustavsson
Don't get me wrong, I agree completely. Like I said, if I had to take a side, I'd take the under...but as mentioned sometimes players surprise.
you know what. The chemistry I've seen in the AHL so far... 40+ - I'm in!
Yahoo - 8 Teams - Dynasty League
(G,A,SOG,HIT,BS,+/-,W,GAA,SV%,SO)
F: Crosby | Malkin | Ovechkin | Giroux | Toews | Perry | Bergeron | Kovalchuk (IR) | Duchene | Benn | Backes | Callahan | Landeskog | E. Staal | J. Staal | Galchenyuk | Gallagher | Silfverberg | Doan
D: Letang (IR) | Seabrook | Keith | Girardi | Green | Ehrhoff | Ellis | Kulikov | Trouba | Beaulieu | Spurgeon | M. Staal (IR) |
G: Lundqvist | Fleury
2006: 9th | 2007: 5th | 2008: 5th | 2009: 2nd | 2010: 1st | 2011: 1st |
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