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    David Carpenter headed to Boston with Farrell for Mike Aviles.

    He was mere bullpen depth, has some talent but he's also 27 and didn't do well in the Jays bullpen when given the chance last year.

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    1:04pm: The Blue Jays have confirmed the Carpenter-for-Aviles trade and the release of Farrell from his contract in a press release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eyemissgilmour View Post
    Well, I'm disappointed to say the least. I was ok with it when I heard Lind's contract was going to be gone as part of this. But I don't see why AA caved without getting something more significant than a guy who's about a Johnson equal. Johnson sucked, so shouldn't they have been looking to upgrade that position?!
    Very rarely are times that you're able to trade a guy with an expiring contract, teams are smarter than that.

    Actually, Aviles might be an upgrade to Johnson.

    Aviles: 57 R, .250 AVG, 14 HR, 60 RBI, 14 SB (in 136 games).

    Johnson: 61 R, .225 AVG, 16 HR, 55 RBI, 14 SB (in 142 games).

    Small upgrade, but Aviles is a good utility player that can play all over the infield and even DH when needed.

    Johnson is going to sign elsewhere once free agency opens up anyway.
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    I think I read earlier today though that Johnson's OPS was higher than Aviles though

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    Yep OBP was .313 to .282.

    I'm kind of feeling underwhelmed now as we'll....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hockeyrobot View Post
    Yep OBP was .313 to .282.

    I'm kind of feeling underwhelmed now as we'll....
    You never get much when you're trading a manager.

    Chill out guys lol.
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    So any opinions who lands in the hot seat as the new Manager for the Jays?

    Sandy Alomar Jr maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    So any opinions who lands in the hot seat as the new Manager for the Jays?

    Sandy Alomar Jr maybe?
    He's their top choice from what I've heard and been told.

    They're also interested in DeMarlo Hale and Brad Ausmus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmvincent View Post
    He's their top choice from what I've heard and been told.

    They're also interested in DeMarlo Hale and Brad Ausmus.

    I almost think I would rather they choose someone with some actual Managerial experience. With a young core, they really need someone in there that has some sound experience. I am not familiar with Hale but I know Ausmus and Alomar arent deep with experience at the Manager level. Both I am sure are solid baseball minds, but not extremely experienced. Especially Ausmus.
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    I really didnt like Farrell so Im happy he left. I just hope the Blue Jays bring a guy who has lots of managing exp at the MLB level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    I almost think I would rather they choose someone with some actual Managerial experience. With a young core, they really need someone in there that has some sound experience. I am not familiar with Hale but I know Ausmus and Alomar arent deep with experience at the Manager level. Both I am sure are solid baseball minds, but not extremely experienced. Especially Ausmus.
    One things for sure, they'll be doing much more due diligence when making their choice for the next manager of the Toronto Blue Jays.

    Remember that a wide majority of managers are former catchers and both Alomar Jr. and Ausmus are no exception.

    Hale was a first baseman and outfielder in his playing days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DerekReese View Post
    I really didnt like Farrell so Im happy he left. I just hope the Blue Jays bring a guy who has lots of managing exp at the MLB level.
    I didnt dislike Farrell, but in hindsight, he really didnt do anything special during his time as Manager. Granted his team this past year was basically a minor league club due to all the injuries they went through. The record easily shows that. As a former pitching coach, he didnt do Ricky Romero any favors either. Hopefully the new Manager can get him back on track.

    I totally agree with you that they really should hire someone with some experience. Even Wakamatsu wouldnt be a bad choice. At least he has "some" managerial experience and knows the players. It would be a smooth transition.
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    Seriously, to me the most important thing is they retain Butterfield. Like that would be priority #1 for me. Because as mentioned at least Wakamatsu has managerial experience so he could always step in as a last resort.

    One does not simply replace a Brian Butterfield.

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    If Anthopoulos isn't as aggressive as he says he's going to be in the off-season, he could lose his job too.

    If I was a Jays fan, I would want some big changes made to this team. Keep guys like Bautista, Rasmus, Edwin, Lawrie and one of Arencibia or D'Arnaud. Then be willing to talk about prospects in trades, you have one of the best farm systems in baseball. No prospect is a guarantee, be willing to trade them.

    Shore up your rotation and give this club a chance to compete.

    If he can do that, I like their chances.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmvincent View Post
    If Anthopoulos isn't as aggressive as he says he's going to be in the off-season, he could lose his job too.

    If I was a Jays fan, I would want some big changes made to this team. Keep guys like Bautista, Rasmus, Edwin, Lawrie and one of Arencibia or D'Arnaud. Then be willing to talk about prospects in trades, you have one of the best farm systems in baseball. No prospect is a guarantee, be willing to trade them.

    Shore up your rotation and give this club a chance to compete.

    If he can do that, I like their chances.
    I agree.. And I think Sandy Alomar Jr. would make a great coach.. He was in the majors as a player forever, he knows his stuff!!

    The redsox can have Farrell, nothing will help them out anytime soon.. I also don't like that he knows so much about the jays..
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    Quote Originally Posted by bondon View Post
    Seriously, to me the most important thing is they retain Butterfield. Like that would be priority #1 for me. Because as mentioned at least Wakamatsu has managerial experience so he could always step in as a last resort.

    One does not simply replace a Brian Butterfield.
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