How to get a Tier 1 Goalie...

[UAVMX]

I really don't have a top tier goalie and it hurts badly. Especially when compared to the other top 3 teams I compete against having at least 1. What should I be willing to trade for a top tier goalie? Rask owner already said he wouldn't do a deal with OV. He mentioned tavares and Benn, which is a little much, I can't give up all my youth. Or is that reasonable?

[2014olympicgold]

Rask is drafted top 8 in the league now, depending on the GM and league settings he can be drafted around 6^th. So Tavares may sound like a stretch, but it’s around the same value. Most people who have Rask, Price, or Lundqvist don’t have a strong 2^nd goalie that could anchor his unit. So Neimi + Kessel/Benn for Rask + 60pt guy might do it.

You do have to overpay for a tier 1 goalie because most GMs built their team around having them. I have Rask and my goalies after that are just supporting cast guys; just people to boost wins/saves. They could never allow me to win goalie cats alone.

[gainerama]

If Niemi and Varlamov are your goalies, then you're over-reacting here. Your goalies are fine, sit back and let your offence do the heavy lifting for you. The fact that you are required to grossly over pay for a superstar goalie with 2 star forwards will not make your team better especially in a H2H format. The type of overpayment to get goalie name recognition will do more damage than good here. Sit tight and trust the team that you've built.

[bondon]

I find that in these type of leagues that appear to be a bit deeper, gunning for the top goaltenders is a foolish mission unless they're REALLY shitting the bed, because people know just how valuable these guys are and how much leverage they have over you. I like to go for the tier 2 goalies that have the potential to be tier 1 goalies...guys like Kari Lehtonen, Braden Holtby, Jaroslav Halak.

In any case, I kind of agree with gainer here. You have the San Jose handcuff and you have Varlamov who was great last year and was doing ok so far this year before his injury. I'd just look for a short term replacement.

My two cents.

[harold_snepts]

rask went 2nd in my league. 10 cats, 3 goalie cats (w, gaa, sv%) - was definitely a reach, but gm swears by goalies.

[Pengwin7]

I'm using a spot-start strategy in one of my roto pools.
So far this season:


So my starts so far this year:
G001: 10-09. Enroth (BUF) vs. CBJ. 37sv, 3ga, Loss. Goalie Grade: C+.
G002: 10-12. Hutchinson (WPG) vs. LA. 10sv, 3ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: D.
G003: 10-13. Berra (COL) vs. BOS. 27sv, 1ga, Win. Goalie Rating: A-.
G004: 10-14. Enroth (BUF) vs. CAR. 22sv, 3ga, Win. Goalie Rating: B.
G005: 10-14. Nabokov (TB) vs. NJ. 23sv, 2ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: B-.
G006: 10-16. Berra (COL) vs. OTT. 0sv, 0ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: F. (*Unlucky, Berry got injured in first 3min. Burned a GP).
G007: 10-17. Enroth (BUF) vs. FLA. 34sv, 1ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: B.
G008: 10-18. Gustavsson (DET) vs. TOR. 30sv, 0ga, Win. Goalie Rating: A+.
G009: 10-18. Allen (STL) vs. ARI. 24sv, 1ga, Win. Goalie Rating: A.

Totals: 9gp. 4win. 207sv (23sv/game, 26sv/game if not for Berra inj), 1.85 GAA, .937 sv%

It's only a week and half into the season and there are 164gp, but right now:
11/12 points in GAA
10/12 points in SV%.

And because I late-draft goalies, my skater-unit is the most BOSS In the league.
That's the advantage.

I'm becoming even a bigger and bigger fan of streaming goalies off the wire for good starts.
It's going to become the new fad in fantasy hockey.
All the kids will be doin' it!

[bondon]

I'm using a spot-start strategy in one of my roto pools.
So far this season:


So my starts so far this year:
G001: 10-09. Enroth (BUF) vs. CBJ. 37sv, 3ga, Loss. Goalie Grade: C+.
G002: 10-12. Hutchinson (WPG) vs. LA. 10sv, 3ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: D.
G003: 10-13. Berra (COL) vs. BOS. 27sv, 1ga, Win. Goalie Rating: A-.
G004: 10-14. Enroth (BUF) vs. CAR. 22sv, 3ga, Win. Goalie Rating: B.
G005: 10-14. Nabokov (TB) vs. NJ. 23sv, 2ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: B-.
G006: 10-16. Berra (COL) vs. OTT. 0sv, 0ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: F. (*Unlucky, Berry got injured in first 3min. Burned a GP).
G007: 10-17. Enroth (BUF) vs. FLA. 34sv, 1ga, Loss. Goalie Rating: B.
G008: 10-18. Gustavsson (DET) vs. TOR. 30sv, 0ga, Win. Goalie Rating: A+.
G009: 10-18. Allen (STL) vs. ARI. 24sv, 1ga, Win. Goalie Rating: A.

Totals: 9gp. 4win. 207sv (23sv/game, 26sv/game if not for Berra inj), 1.85 GAA, .937 sv%

It's only a week and half into the season and there are 164gp, but right now:
11/12 points in GAA
10/12 points in SV%.

And because I late-draft goalies, my skater-unit is the most BOSS In the league.
That's the advantage.

I'm becoming even a bigger and bigger fan of streaming goalies off the wire for good starts.
It's going to become the new fad in fantasy hockey.
All the kids will be doin' it!

I think the thing that would prevent it from being a fad is add/drop limits. I used to stream skaters to get 6 man games a week out of one roster spot but those limits pretty much quashed that from continuing.

Those are some pretty sick snipes though. I remember one year I added Scott Clemmenson when he was on the Leafs for a spot start and he posted a 34 save shutout.

[UAVMX]

Thanks for the reassurance guys. Goalies have 4 cats, 6 for skaters, so I can dominate that 6. Just get's tiring now blowing guys out during the week because of goalies.

I picked up Lehtonen to fill in for Varly. So the question is now what to do. I think I might drop Stalock.

I did just throw an offer on Price for Niemi/Stalock (the guy is a sharks fan) and only has 2 goalies.

[UAVMX]

So funny story, I threw a random offer out to a big sharks fan: His Price for my Niemi and Stalock. He responded with "add a forward instead of stalock"...surprising, but whatever! I might have a chance at a top tier for a good deal. What forward should i offer up? Obviously start low, but I like my young guys, don't want to give up too much youth. I wonder if he'd go for Ladd or Krejci. Thoughts on who to offer up?

[hipcheck]

WOW, this could come back to haunt him if Stalock steals games from Niemi....could be a great deal for you!

[Fast Tony DeNiro]

Add Krejci, or maybe even Schenn or Saad. It sounds like the guy thinks Stalock is ok value, just not the right position. I bet one of those forwards gets it done.

[UAVMX]

I offered D. Sedin, he's getting old, I wouldn't mind getting rid of him, but the name has some oomph, so we will see. I was thinking Krejci too, but his A are nice.

[The Good Sir]

Wow, so I would have offered Niemi/Krejci for Price, but either way if you can get that done solid deal for you. Talk about buying Low.

[UAVMX]

So he wants Kessel/Niemi for his Price. I think it's still good, i have a ton of fire power. Just want to make sure here, still good? I have stepan who will be coming off IR hopefully soon anyways.

[hipcheck]

So he wants Kessel/Niemi for his Price. I think it's still good, i have a ton of fire power. Just want to make sure here, still good? I have stepan who will be coming off IR hopefully soon anyways.

As in Phil Kessel, that would be a BIG NO for me