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Old 03-20-2013, 10:06 AM
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I am in a keeper league where you keep 10... I love my roster and have some great young talent.

I have about 12 guys however that I can keep.

Tavares, Toews, Hall, E Kane, Pacioretty, Seguin, P Kane, Neal, SHattenkirk, Yandle, Price & Rinne

Here are the league stats...

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So what it comes down to is, which 10 would you keep? I am going to move Shattenkirk, and then I was thinking one of the LW...
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:21 AM
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I think you'll get a near even balance of responses on this topic.

But for me...I'm taking Hall...without much thought. I feel his ceiling is much higher and his Hockey sense and attitude, far greater than the oft refered to lazy/aloof Kane.

And that's not even taking their situation or surrounding talent into account which serves to further separate Hall from Kane to the good.
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I agree with Havana, to be honest with you I really think your decision is between Kane and Pacioretty, not Kane and Hall. Hall is a step above those two guys. I agree Shattenkirk is one of the guys, and then between Kane and Patches decide who you like more Kane has more goals, PIMs and GWGs, Patches has more points (by 2) and powerplay points. Last year Patches had 8 more points than Kane but a lower +/-. It's really a toss up, but I think I would want Kane.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:36 AM
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e.kane is a drop imo.
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Old 03-20-2013, 10:37 AM
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These are the 10 I'd keep:

Tavares
Toews
Hall
E Kane
Seguin
P Kane
Neal
Yandle
Price
Rinne

Release:
Shattenkirk (trade away)
Pacioretty

I assume there is no market for Yandle and that is why you are dealing Shattenkirk, because I would keep him over Yandle otherwise.
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I like SeaDawg's breakdown. Keep E.Kane, drop Pacioretty.

If you're married to the idea of choosing between Kane and Hall, I'd keep Hall, but I think Kane trumps Pacioretty.
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Tavares, Toews, Hall, E Kane, Pacioretty, Seguin, P Kane, Neal, SHattenkirk, Yandle, Price & Rinne
It depends on roster allocation... (starting slots)... but in general, I feel that there are 20 or 25 defensemen right now that could all put up 40-50pts. I'd much rather keep elite forwards, assuming you start 3LW/3RW/3C.

My defensemen keepers in multi-cat are: Karlsson.... Letang/Weber/Subban/Chara/Buff. That's about it.

I'd cut the D.
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It depends on roster allocation... (starting slots)... but in general, I feel that there are 20 or 25 defensemen right now that could all put up 40-50pts. I'd much rather keep elite forwards, assuming you start 3LW/3RW/3C.

My defensemen keepers in multi-cat are: Karlsson.... Letang/Weber/Subban/Chara/Buff. That's about it.

I'd cut the D.
agreed, EKane is too valuable too drop in place of Hall, and teh D-men are what they are, good, but not elite and are replacable.
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people are higher on Pacioretty than I thought...I'd drop him before Shattenkirk, but to each his own
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people are higher on Pacioretty than I thought...I'd drop him before Shattenkirk, but to each his own
an argument can be made for both imo

but this is actually where the argument should be not kane vs hall
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