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Hi everyone,
I've been on the forums for the past year, however this is my first post ![]() Currently in a keeper league (Points Only 1G 1A) Been offered Rick Nash (LW) for my Tyler Seguin (C/RW). Value is pretty fair but I think Seguin will have more keeper value. Thoughts? |
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Nash is playing on the top line with some top end talent. The Rangers have always had trouble scoring however, and even though their prone to bursts of goals, they play a defensive-style game that forces each player to play all 200 feet of ice. It's close, but in my view because Seguin is younger and has more upside, I'd need more back than Nash.
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2012-2013 Keeper League Champion Keeper League: Drop four players after each year G A P +/- PIM PPP GWG W GAA SV% SHO Centers: Getzlaf, Stamkos, Tavares, Read (C/RW), Grigorenko, Teravainen, Toffoli Left Wingers: Neal (LW/RW), Ovechkin, Lucic, Clowe (LW/RW), Franzen (LW/RW), Conacher Right Wingers: Perry, Kessel, Downie, Seguin, Atkinson Defense: Letang, P.K. Subban, Dion Phaneuf, Byfuglien, Tyson Barrie, Paul Martin Goalies: Fleury, Smith, Bishop, Rask, Harding, Fasth |
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12 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty -daily starts H2H, Salary Cap 82mil, Player actual salaries (all) +/-,G,A,GWG,PTS,STP,PIM,SOG,HT,BS,GAA,SO,SV,W Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies Forwards: Fleischmann, Duchene, Ennis, Kessel, M.Koivu, Neal, Conacher, D.Sedin, H.Sedin, Bailey, J.Thornton, Bozak Defense: Carlson, Gardiner, Kulikov, Franson, Dillon, MacDonald Goalie: Rask, Crawford Reserves: B.Schenn, Cowen, Fraser, Gryba, Brodeur, Emery, Pavelec Prospects: Gallagher, Chiasson, Killorn, A.Larsson, Murphy, Rielly Fantrax TAHL 2013 Champion |
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Thank you both 9601 and gainerama.
I was hesitant to let him go and your insight reconfirmed this. I also have RNH in this league so hopefully they both peak around the same time
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I would trade my Nash for Sequin, however Nash is ready to explode. Nash has 7 points in 8 games just below a PPG but his shooting percentage is way below (5.7%) his career average (12.6%). If it was based on who I would want for the next two years and my team was close to winning I would want Nash, if its based on long term rebuild because as others pointed out Sequin wont realize his full potential until Boston loses some of its balance then Sequin.
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H2H Yahoo keeper league(keep 3) (12 team) with stats as follows A,G,PPP,+/-,PIM,SOG,W,GAA,SV%,SHO Centers:E.Staal, J.Benn C/LW,N.Kadri Left Wingers: R.Nash, J.Lupul LW/RW, M.Pacioretty Right Wingers: C.Giroux, J.Jagr, M.Ryder Defence: N.Kronwall, D.Boyle ,F.Beauchemin, V.Hedman Goaltenders: B.Hotlby, O.Pavelec, J.Halak |
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also depends what you expect the longevity of the league to be.. |
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Thank you for your reply. I agree that Nash is better for this year and next if I was close to winning. Having said that, every team is close to winning it all this year due to the shortened season (only 20 point different from #1 to #10). At this time, it's hard to let go of Seguin for Nash when their production should be close this year (slight edge to Nash). It's interesting that you brought up Nash's shooting percentage at 5.7%. Seguin is doing tremendously bad so far shooting at 3.7% (career average 10.3%). He is off to a slow start and I am patient to see how he does by the half way point in the season. The skill is there, he just has to start performing like he did during the lockout in the Swiss league (40 points in 29GP)
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10 Team Keeper League: Keep 10 Players (Year 2 of 5) Points Only: 1G 1A 2W 2SO C: J. Thornton, RNH, Berglund LW: Franzen (LW/RW), Perron, Filppula (C/LW) RW: Sharp (C/RW), Seguin (C/RW), Clowe (LW/RW) D: Letang, Green, Chara, Phaneuf, Bieksa, McDonagh G: Miller, Luongo, Anderson Utility: Desharnais (C), E. Cole (RW), Stafford (RW) Bench: Hartnell (LW), Vermette (C/LW), Hudler (LW), Silfverberg (RW), Voynov (D) |
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Currently Year 2 in a 5-Year keeper league. I see Seguin's production increasing for the next 3 years. He posted 67 points last year (.827 PPG) for his second season which is impressive. If he performs around this rate - that's good. If he improves - all the better! ![]() Cheers.
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10 Team Keeper League: Keep 10 Players (Year 2 of 5) Points Only: 1G 1A 2W 2SO C: J. Thornton, RNH, Berglund LW: Franzen (LW/RW), Perron, Filppula (C/LW) RW: Sharp (C/RW), Seguin (C/RW), Clowe (LW/RW) D: Letang, Green, Chara, Phaneuf, Bieksa, McDonagh G: Miller, Luongo, Anderson Utility: Desharnais (C), E. Cole (RW), Stafford (RW) Bench: Hartnell (LW), Vermette (C/LW), Hudler (LW), Silfverberg (RW), Voynov (D) |
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I'd rather have Nash for this year, but moving forward I would rather have Seguin. In a keeper I would hang onto Seguin, as Nash's upside over Seguin for this season, is not nearly enough to justify over Seguin's upside over Nash in the years that follow.
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Hi Essej. Short, concise and perfect response. Thank you.
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10 Team Keeper League: Keep 10 Players (Year 2 of 5) Points Only: 1G 1A 2W 2SO C: J. Thornton, RNH, Berglund LW: Franzen (LW/RW), Perron, Filppula (C/LW) RW: Sharp (C/RW), Seguin (C/RW), Clowe (LW/RW) D: Letang, Green, Chara, Phaneuf, Bieksa, McDonagh G: Miller, Luongo, Anderson Utility: Desharnais (C), E. Cole (RW), Stafford (RW) Bench: Hartnell (LW), Vermette (C/LW), Hudler (LW), Silfverberg (RW), Voynov (D) |
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