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Old 02-03-2013, 04:12 PM
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I'm not going to identify which side as mine to avoid skewing judgement.

20 team Limited keeper league (keep) that will turn into a full dynasty after next years draft.

Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, HTS, BKS.

The Trade:

Team A Sends:
Ovechkin
JVR
Brendan Smith
2013 4th Round Pick (really the 11th round)

Team B sends:
Kopitar
Backes
2013 6th Round Pick (really the 13th round)

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Here's the info on the two teams:

Team A Keepers before the trade:
Ovechkin
Tavares
Seguin
Pietrangelo
Smith
Rask
JVR or Markstrom

Team A Keepers after the trade
Kopitar
Backes
Tavares
Seguin
Pietrangelo
Rask
Markstrom

Team B Keepers before the trade
Stamkos
Kopitar
Backes
Callahan
Karlsson
Price
Lindback

Team B Keepers after the trade
Stamkos
OV
Callahan
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Price
Lindback

So here's the big question:

Who wins the deal? Which side do you prefer?
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C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:35 PM
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Still would want the side getting Ovechkin. Even if he's past his 100 point days your league has both hits and sog so I'd still be looking at him right near the top. That's just based on the keeper part too, looking at the full trade this is hugely tilted to the team getting ao. Anyways just my opinion.
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Old 02-03-2013, 04:51 PM
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Backes is a great multi.cat stud but without FW and Hits, I prefer the AO side.

Feels like the A team sends away to much (JVR and Smith).

Team B doesnt keep JVR or Smith, so why not lower the asking price?
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C : Plecanec, Tavares, Stamkos, Gagner

Rw: Voracek, Backes, Stewart, Landeskog

D: Burns, Seabrook, Subban, OEL, Voynov, Edler

G: Quick, Crawford, Anderson

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Old 02-03-2013, 04:52 PM
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JVR isn't as bad as people think this season. The throw in of Brendan Smith and the higher draft pick is a bit generous. Kopitar is a great player but LA doesn't score much under the Sutter system. The Ovechkin side is more attractive to have.
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I think I agree too. I read recently that AO gets the most PP time in the league. That's going to help, nevermind the 250+ hits and blocks and SOG that he's a lock for. And JVR is playing a fine game now that he's in T.O. and getting some serious time to shine. I think I would still take that side. Plus they're wingers and Backes and Kopitar are C. That's a big deal in my league anyways.
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Backes is a great multi.cat stud but without FW and Hits, I prefer the AO side.

Feels like the A team sends away to much (JVR and Smith).

Team B doesnt keep JVR or Smith, so why not lower the asking price?

Hits is a category.
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C: Stamkos, Getzlaf, Carter
LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
U: Mueller
G: Schneider, Hiller,
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I think I agree too. I read recently that AO gets the most PP time in the league. That's going to help, nevermind the 250+ hits and blocks and SOG that he's a lock for. And JVR is playing a fine game now that he's in T.O. and getting some serious time to shine. I think I would still take that side. Plus they're wingers and Backes and Kopitar are C. That's a big deal in my league anyways.
Backes has RW eligibility in this league.
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LW: Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Brown
RW: Iginla, Pavelski, Horton
D: Byfuglien, J.Johnson, Goligoski, Hedman, Hamonic
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Old 02-03-2013, 05:07 PM
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Hits is a category.
Sorry my bad, read it wrong (assumed it was the same stats as in your sign). Still AO side.
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Lw: E.Kane, Benn, Moulson, Neal

C : Plecanec, Tavares, Stamkos, Gagner

Rw: Voracek, Backes, Stewart, Landeskog

D: Burns, Seabrook, Subban, OEL, Voynov, Edler

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Originally Posted by arctic_rogue View Post
I'm not going to identify which side as mine to avoid skewing judgement.

20 team Limited keeper league (keep) that will turn into a full dynasty after next years draft.

Categories: G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, SOG, HTS, BKS.

The Trade:

Team A Sends:
Ovechkin
JVR
Brendan Smith
2013 4th Round Pick (really the 11th round)

Team B sends:
Kopitar
Backes
2013 6th Round Pick (really the 13th round)

__________________________________________________ _____________
Here's the info on the two teams:

Team A Keepers before the trade:
Ovechkin
Tavares
Seguin
Pietrangelo
Smith
Rask
JVR or Markstrom

Team A Keepers after the trade
Kopitar
Backes
Tavares
Seguin
Pietrangelo
Rask
Markstrom

Team B Keepers before the trade
Stamkos
Kopitar
Backes
Callahan
Karlsson
Price
Lindback

Team B Keepers after the trade
Stamkos
OV
Callahan
Karlsson
Phaneuf
Price
Lindback

So here's the big question:

Who wins the deal? Which side do you prefer?

Team A for me. OV is still a good player. If he can learn from Stamkos, and learn to score from different points of the ice, he'll return to form. If he was playing his best, this would be a run away. I believe B. Smith will be one of the best fantasy defencemen to own in a couple years, period. And JvR is no slouch. He could still be a 1st line player. To me, Backes is the weakest player between the teo teams moving forward. If I was Team A, he would be one reason why I wouldn't even consider the deal.
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i like the trade for SideB..alot

and only because of the lopsided amount of talent coming to him. If Side A would have had a better draft choice or another decent commodity coming his way then it would have been closer.
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