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01-26-2013, 04:28 AM
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Ovi vs toews
Points only league.
Who do you want now and for future? Its is a good time to ship ovi right now or still early? Is Ovi is no more a superstar? He is playing like a zombie with no expression and eemotion... Thanks replying 
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01-26-2013, 05:45 AM
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Maybe it's a little Chicken Little, but I'm slowly getting off the Ovechkin train. One mediocre year, followed by a bad year, now being followed by a terrible start. I'm just not sure about him anymore.
Toews, on the other hand, is poised to take the next step. He always had the talent to be a big-time scorer, but earlier in his career his two-way game kinda held the points back. But last year he started to show just how dominant he really can be....I really think I might actually choose Toews here.
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01-26-2013, 05:52 AM
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Toews is more reliable, but lower upside. 70-80 pts per season.
OV higher upside, unpredictable right now. Anywhere from 65 pts-100 pts.
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01-26-2013, 09:08 AM
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Funny I'm actually thinking of the same thing right now. The difference is we count sog/pims.
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01-26-2013, 09:11 AM
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Funny I'm actually thinking of the same thing right now. The difference is we count sog/pims. I'm just not sure with their starts the Toews owner would take it.
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01-26-2013, 09:19 AM
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Such a tough call right now. I feel like this season is make-or-break for Ovi, and so far nothing doing. We know Toews is capable of PPG pace, and as long as he's healthy he'll net you somewhere around 75-80 points. With Ovi, nobody knows anymore. The fear is that you trade him and he becomes a 60-goal scorer again. I don't see it happening, and I think I might prefer Toews here, but you have to go with your gut on trades like these.
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#7
01-26-2013, 10:55 AM
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Thanks
My gut, i don t want to move him right now because his value is so low. But can is value get lower. I dont want lose Ovi for nothing!!! I think i gonna stick with him and give him a chance to rebond( adaptation with the new coach and systeme) I wish oates will give a try to pair ribeiro with Ovi. I think that will refresh ovi to play with a passer like ribeiro... Thoughts?
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#8
01-26-2013, 11:21 AM
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If you're serious about trading him...wait for a couple more games...we all know he'll have a couple goals...sell then. In a league where SOG and PIMs are counted, he's still worth more than Toews, but if you don't want the drama and disappointment....Toews all the way.
Good luck!
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