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Old 01-23-2013, 12:43 PM
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Default Stamkos advice - Pt II

Last week, I had an offer from a GM, and he backed...

Here's his offer now :

I give : RNH - Granlund (Minnesota)

I get : Stamkos.

What do you think?
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:54 PM
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Take. You're getting one of the big 3. Take it.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:56 PM
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Stamkos is the best player here.
RNH is good, but injury risk and Granlund is still a prospect.
Take the deal.
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Old 01-23-2013, 12:59 PM
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take the deal all the way to the bank
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Old 01-23-2013, 01:09 PM
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id take it too, but it is fairly close imo.
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I would take it, Stamkos is a proven commodity
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Depends on pool depth.

If this was a pool with 140+ forwards in play (say 12 teams each starting 12F), then I'd probably take the RNH/Granlund side.

If this was a pool with <120 forwards in play (say 12 teams each starting 9F), then I'd probably take the Stamkos side.

Somewhere in between I think it evens out.

Really it's always a 2-for-2 trade... and the quality of the waiver-wire player to be added to Stamkos (and keeper value, if limited keeper) also has to be considered.

In most typical leagues, the Stamkos side is better.
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My league is a 24 teams with 12 forwards.

I know that for this season and probably next one, I would be the winner.

But how about in 3-4 years? Granlund may be a 70pts scorer while RNH could do a 80pts season..
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Roster : 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G
Stats : G, A = mainly.
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C : Crosby, Thornton, Grabovski, Sobotka
LW : Vanek, Read, Morrow, Hansen
RW : Stastny, Clowe, Kulemin, A.Kost
D : Markov, Green, Letang, Spurgeon, Eminger, Sulzer
G : Lundqvist, Ellis

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Granlund and RNH could both do more than those numbers, and probably will. Regardless, you're still getting Stamkos. I'd still do it.
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My league is a 24 teams with 12 forwards.

I know that for this season and probably next one, I would be the winner.

But how about in 3-4 years? Granlund may be a 70pts scorer while RNH could do a 80pts season..
pengwin said it too many forwards in play having the depth is likely better for you
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